Character Assisted Lucid Dreaming - CALD Part IV
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#1: Character Assisted Lucid Dreaming - CALD Part IV Author: Talon Arana PostPosted: Mon 27 Aug, 2007
Part I
Part II
Part III
Part IV <-- You are here!

Mecha wrote:
from Webster's unabridged third new international dictionary:

Oneir- or oneiro- also onir- or oniro- comb form [Gk oneir- oneiro-, fr oneiros, oneiron; akin to Arm anurj dream] :dream <oneirology>

I believe it is pronounced Oh-Nay-Ros, though I may be mistaken. As for the two, it helps it to sound more like a science-fiction planet. (Yavin IV, Theban II, etc) It's also there for another reason, but I can't tell you right now :( Sorry.

Oh very cool XD~^^ I like that name alot! Nice roots ^^~
I really like the idea of basing that planet's name off of a root for dream XD

Even though you can't share the other, reason, by the way-- :P It's really appreciate you'd share it at all! XD Thanks buddy ^^~

~Happy lucids!
~Tal :3

#2:  Author: Tribemaker PostPosted: Mon 27 Aug, 2007
terragen. That is a great program, but alas no I do not. I have, however, taken a few of terragen's primary functions. In other words, I gutted terragen, took a few components of it, and use them. I probably have about 10-20% terragen software involved in the master program, but terragen is too slow and clunky for me.

However, if you are interested in renders, terragen is a great place to start. After all, slow and clunky and innacurate is better than nothing at all lol.

#3:  Author: Mecha PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug, 2007
Right now I'm trying to figure out Terragen 2. nuu

#4:  Author: Astraea PostPosted: Thu 06 Sep, 2007
Hey everyone. Far out it feels like I havent been here in ages! So much has been happening, but unfortunatly not in the way of LDs thanx to my dryspell grrr
Arveya is average though there have been some outbreaks of violence in the town. Sage happily sorted it out with his elf magic. The castle is ever changing apart from the middle room so I always have something to explore. All my characters have settled in quite nicely ^^ I havent seen much of Karma or Emanuel actually but Felicia and Sage are ever at my side.
Hope everyones going ok.

#5:  Author: Mecha PostPosted: Mon 17 Sep, 2007
Mecha: This may or may not be a result of CALD.

In last night's dream, I was in a pure white void with a faint grey grid on the floor. A strange six-legged green creature came up to me and announced "Hey, do you want to do things that you could never do in real life? Visit incredible places? If you do, then you have to become lucid. Yep, you're in a dream right now! C'mon!" (I'm paraphrasing here because I forgot the exact words, but they were very similar) I became lucid and thanked the creature, and then woke up after about five seconds. (making this either my second or third longest LD to date)

#6:  Author: Mecha PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep, 2007
In last night's dream I was able to talk to all of my characters. I couldn't see them, just hear their voices.

The bad news is I can't remember what we were talking about, and neither can any of my MC's. sadblauw

The good news is that this means we're getting closer to actually making CALD work. ^^

#7:  Author: Mecha PostPosted: Tue 09 Oct, 2007
Mecha: Yayness! I finally had a lucid ream with Mecha in it! I was wearing him, (He's a non-sentient AI embedded in a suit of power armor) and got to try out our personal teleporter built into the suit.

#8:  Author: kTFox PostPosted: Tue 06 Nov, 2007

I haven't been keeping up with Mimiru but I want to I just have to remember to talk to her. I also want to add in a couple more characters to my CALD.

#9:  Author: kTFox PostPosted: Sun 25 Nov, 2007
I figured that I will add two more to my collection. I might get confused by who is talking to me. No luck with this one yet.

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#10:  Author: Mecha PostPosted: Tue 27 Nov, 2007
Mecha: Depends on how different their voices are. You might try what I did early on, which was to have my MCs only speak from my right or left, depending on who they were.

#11:  Author: Scarecrow PostPosted: Sat 01 Dec, 2007
Is this tech easy? or does it take a while to get used to it?

#12:  Author: kTFox PostPosted: Sun 02 Dec, 2007
ouvres tes yeux wrote:
Is this tech easy? or does it take a while to get used to it?

It's easy to make a character and have them talk to you but it does take time for some people to get them into their dream.

Yayz it's been stickied!

#13:  Author: Talon Arana PostPosted: Mon 03 Dec, 2007
Guysguys guys... I'm SO SORRY! I don't know why I didn't get the notification, but YAY~ XD Stickified! :P~
I'm glad that the latest question has been answered, though :P;; Sorry, I feel so rude!

XD Kt! I'm glad you decided to add a bit to your roster, and Mecha! Great work XD I think you're one of the most encouraging users of this tech I know ^^~

ouvres tes yeux... I think that the ease of the technique, and how quickly one gets into it depends on the user.
The technique's effectiveness so far has varied from person to person. It's ranged from serious extremes... Like for example, Tribe says that it helped with nightly lucids, and some have yet for it to work... :P~

To be honest, the tech is in progress, but for those that I've spoken to, it hasn't been a huge hurdle to get into the swing of things, if you're intrested ^^~ At least, as KT says, creating the character and getting involved isn't a problem if you take intrest in such things :3~ My characters are well intergrated into my daily ritual, for example, because I roleplay (almost) every day.

Thanks guys! Again, sorry for the delayed replies... and aswareness...

Mecha! Huge thanks for the reminder in the char chats ^^~ Much thanks~


#14:  Author: Talon Arana PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec, 2007
Hello hello guys!
I came to come address a situation I've found has been coming to a rise as of late,

the association of CALD with the mental illness of schizophrenia—

^^~ It's not a big issue, and of course, people have their entitlement to their own opinion, but I'm hoping with this post to dispel a few assumptions...

Schizophrenia is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes a mental illness characterized by impairments in the perception or expression of reality, most commonly manifesting as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions or disorganized speech and thinking in the context of significant social or occupational dysfunction.(Wikipedia)

First of all, I try my best to make it clear that the lines of reality should not be blurred, when using this technique. It is the use of character creation and interaction for inducing lucids, besides just being a fun thing to do on the sidelines.
I have a belief that all things that can be thought of, felt, or conceived exist on some level, though not necessarily physical.
Characters aren't real-- But that doesn’t mean that they can’t be realistic--
Treating them realistically, removed the puppet-like qualities.
I find it’s difficult to use a puppet-like character to enact lucids, it seems pointless, and the eventual thought comes up,

“What’s the point? I’m just talking to myself!”.
The interaction between characters is no different than role play chat rooms. The interaction between character and user is similar to internal dialogue—
It’s important to remember, though, that the people who use this technique should be fully aware of the character’s status as non-physical, and unable to affect the mind in any other way but interacting with it.

If someone is not clear on that line, they aren‘t using the technique properly.

CALD is a technique that plays on the same recurring idea that you can use dream characters to initiate lucid dreams.
However, because we are rarely lucid enough to communicate with them consistantly, we can create them ourselves. In creating them—you have a bit more control, but they seem empty, thus the development process of genuine interaction with others...

I’m hoping CALD won’t be associated with Schizophrenia in the future—because with that, it will be bunched together with negative aspects, like delusion, and social dysfunction.

I’ve seen nice things thus far, of people enjoying creating their characters, and having an opportunity to not only develop them further, but share them with others who also enjoy creating and interacting with other characters.

My hope is, that the misconception that CALD is a schizophrenia-inducing technique, and that it is viewed more are a way of character creation, and lucidity induction...

^^~ As for me, I’m off to the character charoom!

Much love and good faith! :D

#15:  Author: Ang PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec, 2007
This is still up? eek2

Very successful [popular] topic. smile

I've since split my contradicting personality into two dichotomous "twins" - Eany [Blue] and Meany [Red]. And, I've been contemplating on splicing my personality into more sub-personalities, color-coordinated to distinguish one from another. (More of a personal matter, for creative purposes than anything. Not to be mistaken for MPD.)

I think Harley Quinn got shoved to the depths of my subconscious, but I'm sure she's just fine.

Eany and Meany are the most developed, seeing as they are my play on the good conscience-bad conscience idea that is personified on cartoons and prime-time television shows. My idea on it, though, is much more deeper; complex.

Although, I have yet to apply them to lucid dreaming....

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