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Kindergarten
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

I used to do Mantak Chia's version of the Microcosmic Orbit when I lived in New Zealand. 30 min first thing in the morning, and 30 min before bed. I had awesome results with lucid dreaming without even really being into it. I read later that Kundalini (Sexual Energy sublimating to Spiritual Essence) really boosts the dream awareness and "charges" up the dreambody. Pretty cool.

Oh also I wasn't working, no significant other, and no worries as they say in NZ. When I got back home and had to work again that all changed and no more consistent LD. Oh well.

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

You mean that sexual energy gets transformed into lucid awareness with that meditation?

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

Moinsquerien wrote:
You mean that sexual energy gets transformed into lucid awareness with that meditation?


Moinsy holds nail, aims hammer, swings...DING!


check out the book it explains it so much better than I could. even better do the meditation if you're really curious and...

SEE what HAPPENS! <fading echo>

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

Allright, thanks. ^^ I´ll search the net for that meditation. :D

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

try searching for the aliun meditation.

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

Does anyone also know a basic meditation to begin with? That is because I yet have never meditated! grin

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hey M styles,

i chose the meditation i do at the moment (not Mantak) because at a certain point in my life i realized i was way too serious! so the med i do now helps remind to relax and be amused.

you might want to look at what you want to experience in your daily life and choose a med based on that. there's so much out there with so many different results, for me it's about how is it going to help me get what i really want?

hope that helps. i found my meditation by total chance, i feel lucky. heck, you may not even need to meditate, an enlightened guy like you!



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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

ill search for a basic one

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

Thanks. :D

And Kind´rgart´n (well, atleast I trie to come up with a nick name variation ), I have something like that too. I was way too serious and organizing. Way too. But lately it is all changing and I´m getting really loose and relaxed. A meditation aiding this progress would be nice. Do you know a nice meditation?


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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

your welcome. smile

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PostPosted: Sun 22 Jul, 2007  Reply with quote

This is what I read in one of the books of the 11 main Upanishads, there are a lot more (it's good to read these texts along with the Yoga Sutra of Patanjali, if anyone wants I will find the links to the ones I use)
The Upanishads maybe full of societal ideas, but there are things you can get from them if your patient enough to go "what does that mean?"
Anyways: The right eye is the centre of your waking consciousness, the point between your eyebrows is the centre of your dreams, and in between your chest (where you usually feel your heart beat) is the centre of deep sleep. There are other functions to these centres, but those aren’t the interest here.
This is what I did (not written in the Upanishads, at least the 11 main ones I looked at) Concentrating between your eyebrows will help you remember your dreams and you can achieve lucidity, there were times when I can almost feel that it is a dream (not lucid yet but getting there). This takes practice and concentration. There are inconsistencies in nights with concentration, sometimes I can concentrate well, sometimes it is really weak, but there are results with dreams.
Concentrating on the heart is also good. I like it better. You will remember your dreams (not as well as concentrating on your forehead, but there are results). I haven’t reached any lucidity with it yet, but chances are it will happen. There is a bonus here too; if you stay I up late, you will feel like you slept for a whole night instead of feeling tired. Doing this while awake helps you keep your strength and concentration too. I am amazed at how well it works. I did some looking around and this is called Yoga Nidra.
You can play with how you concentrate. I.E. imagining a ball there that is a certain colour… you can use what ever feels like is working, although you have to find that first.


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PostPosted: Tue 18 Sep, 2007  Reply with quote

Sounds like you're doing really well. If you keep on practicing it will probably aid you in daily life (as you allready describe) and with LDreaming.

Here's a link to a buddhist perspective on LD, or what the tibetans call dream yoga. The text is not really easy to understand, since we're not brought up whith the same symbols and learning techniques as tibetan buddhists are. But it gives some insight in what dream yoga is and how it is based on very strong visualisation techniques and strong mindfullness.

See http://www.spiritwatch.ca/abuddhis.htm

Ultimately of course, dream yoga is only a method in achieving enlightenment.


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PostPosted: Tue 18 Sep, 2007  Reply with quote

mario wrote:

See http://www.spiritwatch.ca/abuddhis.htm


Thank you for that link, I have been researching Buddhism lately and that looks to have lots of good information in it.


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PostPosted: Wed 19 Sep, 2007  Reply with quote

Bones wrote:
mario wrote:

See http://www.spiritwatch.ca/abuddhis.htm


Thank you for that link, I have been researching Buddhism lately and that looks to have lots of good information in it.


You're wellcome.

Actually there are some books on this topic too:
- 'Dreamyoga and the practice of Natural Light' by Namkhai Norbu and
- 'The Tibetan Yoga of Dream and Sleep', byTenzin Wangyal Rinpoche

And LD-guru Stephen LaBerge has contributed to the field of integrating these ancient techniques with modern insights, see: http://www.lucidity.com/DreamYoga.html


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