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| Absorbing books while sleeping - E. Cayce style |
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Some may have heard of Edgar Cayce, and his claims that he could place a book under his pillow while sleeping and "absorb" the information.
I recently seen this article and thought this would be a great experiment to try here on LD4all.
The article on straightdope.com has a question that ask and answers:
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Dear Straight Dope:
I would appreciate some insight into the case of Edgar Casey, the "Sleeping Prophet." Although Edgar did turn his trance sessions into a money-making venture, what I've read has many elements of a solid story, especially the presence of a disconnected stenographer, and several verifiable accounts of medical treatments. Does the story of Edgar Casey meet with your skeptical approval? ----Thomas Walsh, Chicago
SDSTAFF David replies:
OK, first things first. Although his name was indeed pronounced "Casey," it's spelled "Cayce." For those who aren't familiar with him, here's some background:
Edgar Cayce purportedly began his psychic career when he began losing his voice at age 21 and the doctors couldn't do anything about it. He supposedly went into some sort of hypnotic sleep, recommended a cure for himself while in this state, and got better. Since it allegedly worked for him, he began doing the same thing for other people--diagnosing and prescribing cures while in a supposedly altered sleep state. From there he went on to doing readings for people who sent him letters (rather than actually being there) and on general psychic topics including past lives, the nature of the universe, what happened to Atlantis, etc. He claimed that, upon awakening, he did not recall anything he had said. He also claimed another sleeping power: the ability to absorb information from a book place under his head while asleep. Unsurprisingly, this was apparently never tested. |
Well, now is the time for testing.  Who else to try this than lucid dreamers! 
So here is our task:
-find a short book or article that you have never read before. (you may can ask someone to select a newspaper article and seal it in an envelope for you. Just to make sure your eyes do not see the words subconsciously.)
-place this article under your pillow or head while sleeping
-go to sleep with the intention of reading or "absorbing" this article
-record in your dream diary every remembered details of your dreams
-Please lets try to give this at least 1 week (7 days) , and sleep with this article under your pillow for 7 days without looking at the contents.
It's very very important that you use a dream journal for this experiment. It is a must! As soon as you wake try to write down any details you can recall, even if it's nothing write down "I don't remember anything." It's essential for the validity of this experiment.
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| Posted: Fri 10 Sep, 2004 |
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hey dreamaddict!
awesome idea i like the concept of the experiment..
Over the last two years, i have found myself consistently dreaming new guides for research, book suggestions, different ideas to include in my own writing..
it comes through as pages of text usually, and i seem to know that this is my own future publication. because robert moss is my favourite author on all things dreaming, i often find myself reading one of 'robert moss' new books, and being surprised at the new information it contains.. My journal is literally litered with such experiences...
I think this is a neat experiment, and while it may not prove it to the larger community (since it is basically uncontrolled), i think it will have the effect of proving the potential to the dreamer themself..
good luck!
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| Posted: Fri 10 Sep, 2004 |
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also i should add here that most such information comes through during the twilight zone state of consciousness..
the trick is to keep one's mind awake, focus on breathing, and one's attention on the book itself. often at this state of consciousness, an inner voice speaks, to recite phrases and sentences, etc.. one thing i notice, is that the voice itself comes through witha deeper meanign than just words. you can actually feel the emotion, and perspective of the writer..
very cool... I LOVE THE TWILIGHT ZONE.
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| Posted: Fri 10 Sep, 2004 |
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Thanks Explora for the great advice on focusing intentions.
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| i think it will have the effect of proving the potential to the dreamer themself |
exactly!  I doubt we can prove to the public that this has potentinal, but the main priority here is to get people to have personal experiences.
This experiment reminds me of a LD I had a few weeks ago, where I asked a DC to tell me something interesting. The DC recited one word "sister," and it was the very last word of my dream journal. It was shocking to discover when I opened my DJ to record that LD. ... which was under my bed. 
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| Posted: Fri 10 Sep, 2004 |
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Yes. I remember that dream well Dreamaddict! Awesome stuff! I meant to say that weeks ago!
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| Posted: Sat 11 Sep, 2004 |
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ok i will do it i will get somthing small i think i really need 2 scape back into dreaming again, my dreams of late have been confusingly lucid and disturbing from my past as well, iam dreaming dreams that i used to again which actually worries me. But anywayz i will try it on monday night and iwill report next monday
nice idea DA
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| Posted: Sun 12 Sep, 2004 |
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| explora wrote: |
also i should add here that most such information comes through during the twilight zone state of consciousness..
the trick is to keep one's mind awake, focus on breathing, and one's attention on the book itself. often at this state of consciousness, an inner voice speaks, to recite phrases and sentences, etc.. one thing i notice, is that the voice itself comes through witha deeper meanign than just words. you can actually feel the emotion, and perspective of the writer..
very cool... I LOVE THE TWILIGHT ZONE. |
should you be trying to read it or staring at it, or should just thinking about it work?
It's a devil of a task of keeping your thoughts on topic in the "twilight zone" it's where mantras are forgotten and when remembered they are different than when started... sometimes even taking on slightly "negative" connotations...
wish ic ould think of an example but when i go into that state of mind when i come out i'm saying my mantra and it's not making sense because my left brain is kind of shut down, and the wrods are different and sometimes it has a meaning other than what I intented for it to have.
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| Posted: Sun 12 Sep, 2004 |
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i think there has been some reseach to say that that side doesnt actually shut fdown.. i will have to go find out about that.
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| Posted: Mon 13 Sep, 2004 |
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yo...if this works it would make this year in school SO much easier...sweet let me grab something and throw it under the pillow asap...so i leave the same article under there for a week ya say? don't think an entire book would work?
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| Posted: Mon 13 Sep, 2004 |
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Yeah Lucid Sky Dreams!
From school, I have this one text book that I'm about to have a test on. Everytime I try to study at night (need self disciplin!) I just get bored, and say to myself, "Oh..I'll just sleep on it!)
But hey! Thanks to this wonderfull topic, I think this time I really will just sleep on it.
Literaly!
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| Posted: Mon 13 Sep, 2004 |
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 #six, I say that a lot too
LSD, the only reason I requested an article, is because it's simple and quick to read the whole thing afterwards. Sure you can try a book, but for the experiment you must read the whole thing to look for clues that may have been in the dream.
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| Posted: Tue 14 Sep, 2004 |
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So My text book is about Computer literacy. Everything I don't know about computers. I can't even type, I swear it has taken me already 2 minutes just to write this!
Anyway, I used the book as a pillow last night. It was uncomfortably hard, but I managed to fall asleep anyhow.
This morning, when my alarm went off, I kept my eyes closed as I reached to shut of the alarm.....This is the dialogue that went on in my head;
"The computer technician is able to extend the forarm out into the system to manipulate the mechanism to enable it to be programed to be disabled. It is in this logical way that an alarm can be dismantled.. "
Wow! Huh!?
So bizare, so complex. My head must of just sucked in all that technical language in the book and incorporated it into the mindless action of shutting my alarm off! 
 Hey! This is fun! Oh..... of what else could I sleep on! Of what else could come into my consciousness!
Okay, now I'm at school, time to actually read the book.
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| Posted: Wed 15 Sep, 2004 |
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You should put the book UNDER your pillow, not use it as one. ^^
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| Posted: Wed 15 Sep, 2004 |
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Hahahahahahaha 
Man I gotta to vote #six's post and spacecheese's reply for the most funny post and reply ever!
I had a good laugh.. thanks! hahaha
Anyways that experiment is interesting. I'll try it sometimes.
[edit] I also forgot... long time ago i heard about that experiment.. so I tried to do that with my homework cuz when i was younger... I can be lazy with homework lol. So I tried to sleep on it... no successes so far though. hahaha I failed the test and everything. >_< Oh well... lol
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| Posted: Thu 16 Sep, 2004 |
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starting to night with something from the paper
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