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Eventually I had to swallow, and I started focusing on that. It seems like when you think about stuff when you are WILD'ing then you notice it 10 times more than usual. Are you supposed to swallow when you WILD? |
Hi Stiffy! 
It's a common beginners problem. It generally ruins your WILD because when you notice it, you swallow more and more, etc.  So, in the first times, just continue to focus on your practice and if you begin to swallow, then you swallow.  With experience, this problem disappear, or if it happens sometimes, you don't worry and just keep up focusing on your practice and try to forget your swallowing.
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| Posted: Sun 11 Jun, 2006 |
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I haven't had a WILD yet but sometimes when I try using the WILD technique, I get this cracking sound and feeling in my ear. When I lose concentration, it just disappears. Does that mean that I'm getting closer or is there any other exlanation?
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| Posted: Sun 11 Jun, 2006 |
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When I tried WILD tonight I got to the point where my body got numb and felt as if I could float. I then tried to get into my dream but concentrated too much on RL and failed again. Is when your body gets numb a good time to start trying to get into a LD or am I just doing this wrong?
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| Posted: Sun 11 Jun, 2006 |
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So, the other day, I had woken up around 9, and I was going back to sleep, and I wasn't trying to wild, but I started getting HI like I am wont to do, and then, all of a sudden, I heard this demonic voice whispering "q...q...q...q" in my ear, and I freaked out and sat up. So, then I was falling asleep again, and I was starting to see HI again, and then I felt like I was going down a vortex, or a maelstrom, and I saw a face at the bottom, and then I went into the face, and then I had SP. So, of course, I freaked out, tried to yell, and then I relaxed and it went away. Unfortunatly, I decided to get up then. Ah well. So, I am on the right track?
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I almost had a WILD last night. I used a technique I believe I read about on the BIG WILD topic part XII, but I'm not sure.
For reference, I had a cup of hot cocoa, a cup of warm milk and honey, and a B-complex pill before I went to bed. I counted to 100 repeatedly until I lost count three times. I then visualized a flame in my throat, and focused only on that. SP set in pretty quickly, and I got through the feelings of suffocation without breaking my concentration. I experienced mild vibrations, in waves through my body. I didn't notice any HI or AH. I thought that I had started dreaming, so I unsuccessfully tried to sink through my bed. I think that I became too excited after I felt the waves through my body and woke up entirely. I gave up after that and went to sleep.
This is definitely better than my previous WILD attempts, as I actually managed to maintain SP for a while, but I don't think I was able to let go of enough of my consciousness. Any tips on staying paralyzed, and when to try to enter a dream? As well, are there any suggestions on keeping from being too conscious to enter a dream? Any help would be appreciated.
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I have only had a few successful WILD's, but I tried agian last night...unsuccessfully...and noticed something interesting. I have it all explained out in as best detail as I could remember the morning after in my Dream Archive.
One thing I noticed is in several of my attempts, I get to a point where my hands feel backwords. It feels like they were chopped off at the wrists and reatached the wrong way. Has anyone else felt this, or atleast something similar? Is it common or am I one of Wolby's freaks? 
Current LD goal(s): Steal Rhewin's hoverboard
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| Posted: Thu 15 Jun, 2006 |
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I have been trying WILD for the past 4 months and have only had two DILD's. I don't exactly feel as if I am making progress either.
Whenever I do WBTB and start WILD, I go straight to sleep, most often still too much asleep to succeed with WILD. Except, whenever I wake myself up enough to seriously try WILD, I end up staying awake for an hour or more, before I quit and go to sleep.
My questions are:
1. How can I tell if I'm progressing in WILD?
2. If I were to stick with WILD even for 2+ hours, would it eventually succeed?
Thanks
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hey all, havnt really posted alot before, but i love to read around.
anyways, in relation to WILD i feel that sleeping for 6 hrs then staying awake for 1hr and going back to sleep, is a very good technique. i have only tried this twice, with astounding multiple part lucid dreams, one with atleast 8 lucid scenarios.
so for those of you who havnt try this method, i suggest that you do and if u can, pick up some B-complex. this has definatly increased my dream vividness and recall, even allowing me to become lucid from a normal dream for the first time.
well, i have now been up for 55mins, so im goin back to bed... i hope to post my results in afew hours... whenever i get up.
catchyas soon
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Well... i spent over an hour tryin to get to sleep with no results . for one, i think that my timing was a bit off... being 8:30am when i went back to bed. in both previouse attempts i have awoken at 5, and back to bed at 6. i feel that the earlier it is, the more chance you have at getting back to sleep.
if you are able to follow that kind of timeline then your primary objective once back in bed should be to go to sleep, not to enter SP or get caught up with HI, because it is wakefullness/alertness that allows you to become conciouse of your dream state. but by all means... if SP is ur thing then go for it. lately i've had a bit of trouble getting to sleep on my back.
hopefully i'll be going to bed around 11pm tonight so i can get an early start on my WILD.
i wish i had some inspiring results to speak of, but untill tomorrow... may the light of darkness guide you to the land beyond sleep.
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| Posted: Sun 18 Jun, 2006 |
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When I try using the WILD technique, I get this cracking sound and feeling in my ear. When I lose concentration, it just disappears. Does that mean that I'm getting closer or is there any other exlanation? |
I think it's an interesting auditory HI and you're really close to a LD. I believe cracking sounds are often heard before OBE-like LD's. Now I can't give you advices cause I haven't had anything like this.
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Is when your body gets numb a good time to start trying to get into a LD or am I just doing this wrong? |
As for me, I don't think having his body getting numb is enough. You have to get HH's. Enhancing your floating feelings by inducing mentally a rocking or a rolling movement could be a good trick.
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all of a sudden, I heard this demonic voice whispering "q...q...q...q" in my ear, and I freaked out and sat up. So, then I was falling asleep again, and I was starting to see HI again, and then I felt like I was going down a vortex, or a maelstrom, and I saw a face at the bottom, and then I went into the face, and then I had SP. So, of course, I freaked out, tried to yell, and then I relaxed and it went away. Unfortunatly, I decided to get up then. Ah well. So, I am on the right track? |
You had a real SP? That is, you couldn't move or yell? If so, you were quite already in a LD. You just have to move mentally, for instance spinning on your axis or trying to roll out of your bed. Just keep up.
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I experienced mild vibrations, in waves through my body. I didn't notice any HI or HH. [...] Any tips on staying paralyzed, and when to try to enter a dream? As well, are there any suggestions on keeping from being too conscious to enter a dream? |
I think you should try to reach the stage when you have HH. HH may be visual, auditory yet also somesthetic, that is strong vibrations, falling feeling and all sort of dream body feelings, etc. If you don't have one of them, it means that you're not in the hypnagogic state.
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I get to a point where my hands feel backwords. It feels like they were chopped off at the wrists and reatached the wrong way. Has anyone else felt this, or atleast something similar? |
Yes indeed, it's common. I've had it too. It's a good beginning for somesthetic hallucinations.
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I have been trying WILD for the past 4 months and have only had two DILD's. [...] My questions are:
1. How can I tell if I'm progressing in WILD?
2. If I were to stick with WILD even for 2+ hours, would it eventually succeed? |
As for me, I think you're not gifted with WILD and you'll spoil your time in trying it. You should try DILD methods, it's far easier (unless you absolutely want to have WILD's). Now I'll answer your questions: you know you're progressing in WILD if you can reach easily the hypnagogic state. If you try WILD for more than 2 hours, you will probably just have insomnia.
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| Posted: Sun 18 Jun, 2006 |
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Thanks Basilus West!
I know it's been a while without much luck with WILD, but I figure eventually it'll start to work. I'm sticking with it because recently I have been able to relax extremely well and get vibrations. Whenever I try to pretend like I'm spinning or rocking, I get more vibrations, and I think keeping this up will yield results. I tend to keep WILD down to 10-40 minutes now so I'm feeling alot better about it too!
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| Posted: Sun 18 Jun, 2006 |
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I have been trying WILD for the past 4 months and have only had two DILD's. [...] My questions are:
1. How can I tell if I'm progressing in WILD?
2. If I were to stick with WILD even for 2+ hours, would it eventually succeed? |
As for me, I think you're not gifted with WILD and you'll spoil your time in trying it. You should try DILD methods, it's far easier (unless you absolutely want to have WILD's). Now I'll answer your questions: you know you're progressing in WILD if you can reach easily the hypnagogic state. If you try WILD for more than 2 hours, you will probably just have insomnia. |
Correction. You WILL have insomnia. I've done it before. I know. And it was very painful the next morning with back/eye aches.
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| Posted: Sun 18 Jun, 2006 |
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I am semi-new and I was wondering...
Does noise prevent a WILD from working or is it possible to get by with slight noise?  
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| Posted: Sun 18 Jun, 2006 |
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I always have the fan on and I've been able to WILD. I've been able to WILD during a nap with music playing as well. I can also tell how close I am to the dream state judging by how loud the white noise is (that ringing noise in your ear). Noise doesn't prevent WILD unless you absolutely cannot sleep if there's noise. (I think)
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| Posted: Sun 18 Jun, 2006 |
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Thanks! 
And another thing does accidentally swallowing mess up wild also?
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