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dcataylor
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

Hello all two questions. 1.While WILDing, do I have to say in my head, I will dream tonight etc. 2. Before WILDing, do I have to sleep 5-6 hours?
Thank you all
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

As Lucidity_Master said, WILD is a conscious entry into the dreamstate.
That is one reason it doesn't work very well when you try it when you go to bed, because normaly you don't enter REM until after about one hour of sleep then. For WILD to work, you have to go directly from awake to dream sleep. If you go from awake to deep sleep, then later in REM sleep you become lucid, then that is DILD.
If you can still move, then you are not in SP. In SP, if you move, you move your dream body because your RL body can't move. That is why SP is such a good way to get into an LD. You have SP when you are still conscious (your mind is awake) but your body is asleep ( you are in SP and REM sleep ). Then anything that you do could move you into a lucid dream. It could also wake you back up, so you need to practice until you find the right thing for you to do. siiw

For dcataylor,
1. No, you need to do something to keep your mind awake while your body goes to sleep. That could be counting, listening to music or something like that.
2. It helps a lot if you sleep for 5-6 hours befor trying WILD, because when you first go to sleep at night, your body needs some deep sleep. After a few hours of sleep, you can go directly from awake to REM sleep, where most dreams that we can remember happen.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

I have a problem. I don't know when HI started. I always wait and wait and nothing happen. What's going on ?
How can I go into HI ?
(sorry for my english)


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PostPosted: Sun 17 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

You are probably too awake. If you don't know what HI should be like, just try to fall asleep normally, and take notice of any images that suddenly appear out of nothing. But do not actually wait for them to appear, as this will keep you awake and waiting forever.
HI can be quite detailed and feel very real. You will know it if you see them.
Try it in the morning, after 5 or 6 hours of sleep. It is much easier then. You have to actually come very close to falling asleep to see HI, so it helps to be tired. wink5


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PostPosted: Mon 18 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

ToBedAndBeyond wrote:


If im lucky, next i start feeling totally seperated from my body. it feels like i am all in my head. The HI kind of dies by this point. But the feeling is intense and i start to feel lke something is really going to be happening.

but then comes the killer. my heart starts beating uncontrollably. I slwly am brought back point a where i started.

Its frustrating because i feel like im getting so close...

what is happening?

I have the exact same problem, i think its at the point where i feel like im borderlining dream state my heart beats like crazy... and i feel my chest and stomach going in and out with my breathing then im back where i started. how do we get over this part?


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

ok firstly sorry for the repost i know this will be the 100th time but i cant find a topic were all the techniques and methods are all pulled into one concise post/'s, without all of everyone elses inbetween posts.

Also i need some advice. i do this as soon as i lay in my bed controling my breathing in and out as you do and count inbetween breaths around 30 i get numbness then around 60 my eyes will shart shutting and i feel a wave of numbness flow over me as i stop automaticly counting and start thinking of the most random things. most of them are visual and last a few seconds then i start counting again...

Whats happening? Whats going wrong?What other techniques are widly known?


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

I wish I could help you but I have the same problem. Your thought strays and you stop counting without realizing it right? Then randomly start counting again? As far as I can tell from what I've read on these forums, its best to just keep relaxed and keep counting.

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

Ignotus, the main WILD topic, highlighting the first steps taken to achieve WILD, and any other questions you may have, can be found here.

There is another topic about WILD without WBTB, which can be found here.

And finally, the Big WILD topic can be found here.

I hope these help you.

Good luck! smile




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Re: Wild
PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

Ignotus wrote:
ok firstly sorry for the repost i know this will be the 100th time but i cant find a topic were all the techniques and methods are all pulled into one concise post/'s, without all of everyone elses inbetween posts.

Also i need some advice. i do this as soon as i lay in my bed controling my breathing in and out as you do and count inbetween breaths around 30 i get numbness then around 60 my eyes will shart shutting and i feel a wave of numbness flow over me as i stop automaticly counting and start thinking of the most random things. most of them are visual and last a few seconds then i start counting again...

Whats happening? Whats going wrong?What other techniques are widly known?


hmm visual images.. its probally HI meaning your close to dreaming

or it might jsut be random thoughts.Try clearing your mind and only thinking about lucid dreaming.Its hard the first few tries but then you'll find it useful.Meditation helps in clearing your mind


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

also, don't forget to read the main site's guide smile
merging this in the First steps to WILD topic ^^


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

Oh lookie i'm posting after Q. I feel special.

Um, I've tried WILD again, and I've worked out I just can't do it. I'm too fidgety. I can't lie still for more than 5 minutes. I start to itch in the face or arm, and you sure can't relax when you're itchy or a fly is attacking you. Also, i just become uncomfortable very quickly, it's not the bed I've just always been like that. Am I stuffed for WILD because of these, or is there a fix?


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PostPosted: Fri 22 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

Well, I've been trying WILD, but it hasn't been working. So the other day I don't even feel like trying, I go to bed. Next I find myself awake in bed. All of the Sudden I hear thud thud thud and it gets faster and faster, the next thing I know I'm on a roller coaster. Sadly, I woke backup...probably was too excited. I tried saying I'm dreaming, I'm dreaming but it still didn't work. overspannen

Any ideas how to not get excited, and how I even got into a lucid dream without trying.


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Fox201
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Quick WILD question.
PostPosted: Sun 24 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

When wilding, do you leave your eyes open ore closed, i see hyphawhatnot imahes with them open but should i close them when trying to wild?

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

Making post short: I close them, it would be kinda hard to fall asleep with opened ones.

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Dec, 2006  Reply with quote

Note for the holidays : Do not try to Wild after eating alot of turkey it simply will not work, as I found out lastnight much to my own vexation.

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