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LD occult? / can you bring back something to IRL? (Question)
PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

<mod>moved from stuff dreams are made of moogle </mod>

I've read that occoltists are into studing lucid dreams. Why? Does it have anything to do with occult, because I dont want to be involved in that kind of stuff. another thing, it is possible in any way to get something in a dream and wake up and have it in real life? (i know its a stupid question, and yet, is it?)


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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

1) LD'ing is a perfectly natural phenomenom. It has also been scientifically demonstrated, unlike everything occult.

2) No, you cannot bring dream objects into the real world. Kind of a shame really - countless times have I wanted to take a photograph of something cool in an LD, so that I could look at it in the RW.

3) You're paranoid about the occult wink5.


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

I think one of the reasons occultists (and other people, don't forget all the other people tounge2) are into studying lucid dreams is because it's a good way to explore what's going on in your mind (as are normal dreams). It's a way to get to know yourself better, and for some people a way to take control of some things, for example facing their fears, or gaining confidence for something, etc.

Lucid dreaming in itself has absolutely nothing to do with the occult, and being into lucid dreams does in no way mean you're automatically into the occult.

*Olesia agrees with Sureal's 3rd point.

No, unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on what you'd wanna bring back), you can't bring anything back. I'd love to take souveniers from some of my dreams ^^, but on the other hand, maybe it's better this way... if you could take positive things with you, maybe you could take negative things with you as well... and I know I wouldn't like my room being filled with monsters from my dreams. wink


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Its funny you bring this question up. I just wrote a story based on this very idea for my creative writing class the other day. We had to pick a quote, so I picked this one:

“What if you slept? And what if, in your sleep, you dreamed? And what if, in your dreams, you went to heaven and plucked a strange and beautiful flower? And what if, when you awoke, you had the flower in your hand? Ah, what then?”

Its a quote by Samuel Taylor Coleridge. It really makes you think if its possible. It would be cool to bring stuff back, but as Olesia mentions, if you could bring anything back, you could bring back negative things as well. If you wanna check out my story, its in the Garden of Creation titled Heavenly Flower.


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Thanks for all the help guys.
It answered all of my question fully.


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Well, I have a question along the same lines.
Why is the site's category "Occult"?

Sadly my school blocks occult sites.


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Really? Your school sucks! What if you wanna do some research on the occult? For a school project.
Oh and.. My opinion of your school is solely on this one matter ofcourse.


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Lucid dreaming is more New age.

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

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Sadly my school blocks occult sites.


I bet the Wiccans in your school hate that tounge2.


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Your school blocks ld4all saying its occult ? :Rofl:

What the heck, ld4all has some kind of occuklt tag ? confused

And what is new age? kiekeboe


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

If only it was possible...

*sigh


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

there is a "tale" of two women who may still live today, who could "somnambule" at will, awake, and have materialized a book which they kept.

now the interesting part would be to read that book, would'nt you agree


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

...They could materialize everything they wanted but did in fact not start taking over the world, building palaces or whatever they thought would make the world better?

Undoubtedly a rather interesting tale, but the chance that one person, let alone 2 would have this power and not abuse it is in my opinion... Well, nihil.


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

You know... I think I like Inquisitor Bob smile. Reminds me of me tounge2.

If I had that power, I'd use it for... well, not world domination, but for something that would be rather (read: very) evident today. I don't know - make the world a better place, I guess.


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan, 2007  Reply with quote

Can you take mental things back with you? Say, you slowed your perception of time in a dream. Can you bring that slowed perception back with you?

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