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PostPosted: Fri 29 Feb, 2008  Reply with quote

I'm unsure of this but a few times I've just fallen asleep but I'm Kinda' not and every time I crash say of my bike or I am swinging and fall of then I literally shake in my bed and wake up.

And every time it is in a place that looks exactly like it does in real life.



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PostPosted: Fri 29 Feb, 2008  Reply with quote

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I'm unsure of this but a few times I've just fallen asleep but I'm Kinda' not and every time I crash say of my bike or I am swinging and fall of then I literally shake in my bed and wake up.

And every time it is in a place that looks exactly like it does in real life.


I'm not sure, but based off your description that sounds like a Myoclonic jerk. If it is, you would probably be in bed trying to go to sleep. You might see an image or what appears to be the start of a dream. In the dream you would do something that would cause you to fall or trip. You would then suddenly jerk, and find yourself awake in bed. Unfortunately this wouldn't be counted as an LD. Although it is a good indicator for how HI feels, up until you jerk awake that is smile



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PostPosted: Fri 29 Feb, 2008  Reply with quote

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Kirbypowered wrote:
I'm unsure of this but a few times I've just fallen asleep but I'm Kinda' not and every time I crash say of my bike or I am swinging and fall of then I literally shake in my bed and wake up.

And every time it is in a place that looks exactly like it does in real life.


I'm not sure, but based off your description that sounds like a Myoclonic jerk. If it is, you would probably be in bed trying to go to sleep. You might see an image or what appears to be the start of a dream. In the dream you would do something that would cause you to fall or trip. You would then suddenly jerk, and find yourself awake in bed. Unfortunately this wouldn't be counted as an LD. Although it is a good indicator for how HI feels, up until you jerk awake that is smile

Okay, thanks for telling me. So are you saying that that's kinda' like what it feels like
in a LD?



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PostPosted: Fri 29 Feb, 2008  Reply with quote

Kirbypowered wrote:
Okay, thanks for telling me. So are you saying that that's kinda' like what it feels like
in a LD?

It's a good indicator for how HI feels, HI is different from an LD though. So that wasn't quite what I was saying smile HI is imagery you see when you are entering a dream, this is not the same as how an LD feels wink5



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Was it a lucid dream?
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I dreamt of lucid dreaming in my dream sleep.
I got everything the dream me wanted to dream but not exactly what I want to dream but it seemed like a lucid dream except I was dreaming that I was lucid dreaming.

So did I lucid dream? I think at some stage I knew I was lucid dreaming but was it just the dream me.
Is this a sign I'm going to lucid dream soon?


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PostPosted: Sun 02 Mar, 2008  Reply with quote

Ah, this is VERY common for people to this. Also, if you keep a DJ for a while, youll start dreaming about it.

Remember - you dream about what your mind thinks is important. So if you constantly think about Lucid Dreaming you will naturally dream about it. This does NOT mean it is an LD

But yes, the more you think about the techniques and dream about lucid dreaming, you will get one.

Just like an olympic athlete who thinks about his event constantly, he will naturally do better.


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar, 2008  Reply with quote

I always forget to do reality checks, and I try to write in my diary when I can clearly remember the dream. A lot of the times I got things to do so I sort of put it off. Haven't written in my dream diary for awhile now

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Mar, 2008  Reply with quote

I tricked myself too last night...I remember at one point looking at my hands and saying "I'm dreaming, I'm dreaming :D I can do whatever I want"...But I didn't actually believe that, I think I was trying to prove that I was doing my RCs in RL to whoever I was with... I'm mad for not grasping it. I can't wait to have another LD...

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Mar, 2008  Reply with quote

I THINK i had 2-3 Lucid Dreams my first night's attempt. I would like to get these validated and if so, sweet awesome website. Technically, this story is going to follow rule #1 but then proceed to LD levels if syntax doesn't throw you off! I'd just like to know what happened. smile

I went the method of motivating myself before sleep (but not wanting it too bad right away) and trying to realize when I went into a dream. All 3 times, I went into multiple dreams (they're tricky to realize! I was fooled so many times!) but when I realized it was a dream, I seemed to "re-awake" into another 'dream' from my room in my bed each time, then was able to explore for a bit before actually waking up or losing focus. By the 2nd time, I was able to easily telepathically open doors, fly a bit while carrying someone, etc.

The first time, I was waiting for me to dream (takes SO long when you're waiting!) and my phone started going off. Then lights above my bed started going off and I was trying to shut them all down 'cuz I was preparing to LD. At one point, I was shutting off multiple lights when it hit me: I don't have all these damn lights in my room lol. From that moment it seemed to spark a "2nd dimension" of awakenning and my brother came in the room in the beginning of all my cycles.

The 2nd time (same night), my LD machine was malfunctioning. I then realized, "dude wtf, I dont' have an LD machine. I was only laying in bed by myself" and that seemed to spark the same thing (brother came in room, I tested 'powers,' they worked, and i dreamed).

Wish I could describe these better, or if you need other parts, let me know. Being my first night and experience, none of my LDs felt to pass with a full hour or anything, and there were definitely blurry parts. It wasn't as 'free roam' as real life either (maybe this is a wrong assumption, but something clearer and longer could be very fun). I can't remember the last dream I had where I flew so to have 2+ in the same night (in fact, I think i flew in my 3rd dream too), must've mean something. Also, me 'awakenning' in my bed at the begenning of each one might be a clue to validate what happened.

I will continue to try, though, and try not to get discouraged when something happens. LD sounds very cool and fun. I didn't know your mind can do that.

EDIT: btw another intersitng note. In my 2nd dream, I met/was transported to some redheaded lady in a white dress that 'told me' to hang in there/keep my lucid fluidity. The first time what she said really worked. Kinda interesting my mind at least created this lady. At the very least, the idea of LD entered a normal dream..?


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PostPosted: Wed 12 Mar, 2008  Reply with quote

it's hard to say since you had been focusing on lucid dreaming before sleep. They are at least pre-lucid dreams.
So when
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but when I realized it was a dream, I seemed to "re-awake" into another 'dream'

this realisation happened in the dreams were you fully aware that it was a dream in your mind or was it an automatic realisation that it was a dream with no true awareness? if you were fully aware if even for seconds then you were lucid



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PostPosted: Thu 13 Mar, 2008  Reply with quote

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huH? not quite sure what you're asking. Thanks for the quick response!

Before I went to bed, I went in with the focus of Lucid dreaming via realizing/being aware when I'm in a dream (that's what you're supposed to do, no?).

So when I realized how unrealistic things were (at this time I was dreaming), that's when it caught on to me - "ah! dude you're in a dream now! This stuff isn't real!"

It seemed I clearly mentally told myself this via observation/reasoning.


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PostPosted: Thu 13 Mar, 2008  Reply with quote

First of all, I'm very sorry for my bad english. But I hope you can understand me anyway.

My friend had this dream, I don't think it's a LD but he wants to know, and since I'm very new to this I don't know. As I said, I don't think it's a LD but he said that "it felt like one". I don't know how it can feel like one since he isn't sure that he had a lucid dream yet.
But enough of that, here's what he told me:

He was in a strange house in the middle of the night when it was dark and there were only one lamp on the second floor, and he was on the first floor. So he walked up some stairs to the second floor and looked through a window, there was an old man there looking at him and shaking. Then he (my friend) got afraid and he thaught "lucid dream" and then everything started to blink in different colors, and then he woke up.


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BobbyS wrote:
So when I realized how unrealistic things were (at this time I was dreaming), that's when it caught on to me - "ah! dude you're in a dream now! This stuff isn't real!"

It seemed I clearly mentally told myself this via observation/reasoning.


From that piece of your post, it does sound like you were fully aware of what being lucid meant. If the dream felt hazy it could be because it's a lower level lucid dream and the 'awakening into another dream' sounds like a False Awakening

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Then he (my friend) got afraid and he thaught "lucid dream" and then everything started to blink in different colors, and then he woke up.


It's possible that the term Lucid Dream can appear in dreams without you actually being lucid. What matters is that you are aware you are dreaming. Without knowing if your friend understood the implications behind saying lucid dream (By that I mean he thoughts were something like "I'm Lucid Dreaming" along with an awareness, during the dream, of what that means.) it's hard to say.



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PostPosted: Mon 17 Mar, 2008  Reply with quote

Hey,
Right, until this morning, i always questioned my LD one time, and though other than that, i hadnt had one. This morning i was led in bed, letting last nights dream come back to me, because it was kinda wierd and as if i was falling, a huge weight on my body, and i remembered it, and i had looked at a oven clock, which had rune symbols on it, and thought "Thats not right" and i was lucid for about.. well, i managed to write 3 a4 pages about it this morning, and 1 with just rough thoughts of it, and then i was reading about LD on another site and it said why have them if you dont remember it ? i i thought well what if i have been but cant remember i was, even though i do remeber my dreams. It wass then i remembered a reacuring nightmare i used to have when i as ill, i would be walking down a corridor it was very dark dungeon like, there where rats and bats, spiders and other bugs and every 10-12 ft was a small tourch on the wall, and i would be walking and all i oculd see at the other end was me floating there dead and there was a gaint hand holding me with a light around it and as i got closer it stays the same distance away (Kind of like the dreams where you run down the hallway and the door moves away). The another hand comes down over it and a evil looking fuigre come out of my body and goes into the hand and forms a painting and the frame and hangs it on the wall (The painting are hung all down te corridor, as far as i run, under every torch). when the painting is hung a beam hits the body i see (me) and as it joults i feel myself joult to, and i fall to my knees and them it gets up and looks at me and i start to hear voices saying dont look at the walls faces and then i would realise the paintings killed me, and then i know i realise its a nightmare, I THINK, coz i remember telling myself to not look, but when i told myself, i could fell it in my physical body to, but then i would make myself look at it, at that time i would wake up and puke, and i knew in my dream i would do that if i did, as if my concious mind was telling me in my dream... What do you all think ?

thanx for help in advance
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i would realise the paintings killed me, and then i know i realise its a nightmare, I THINK, coz i remember telling myself to not look, but when i told myself, i could fell it in my physical body to, but then i would make myself look at it, at that time i would wake up and puke, and i knew in my dream i would do that if i did, as if my concious mind was telling me in my dream... What do you all think ?


That doesn't sound like a fun dream. overspannen As for if it is lucid, you might have thought that thought the instant you woke up or as you were semi-awake. If you had this thought whilst dreaming it sounds low-level lucid. Personally I think it's more likely to be a thought as you were waking up, it's a good sign though. grin You just need to realize earlier. wink5



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