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the BIG Reality Check Topic [part II]
PostPosted: Sun 27 Apr, 2003  Reply with quote

<mod> This is part II of the BIG Reality Check topic. Part I can be found here.
Please post all your RC questions, techniques, etc here. Other RC topics will be locked and directed to this topic. </mod>


Have you just used the clock as a reminder to do RCs often, or do you want to condition yourself to do a RC everytime the clock is beeping, so that you lie the clock next to your bed while sleeping and go lucid when it starts beeping?
I haven´t tried it yet, but I am interested in it

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PostPosted: Sun 27 Apr, 2003  Reply with quote

I've been trying to use the watch's chime for the past couple of days. At night I would put it very close to me but I never hear the hourly chime in my dreams. I can only hear it if I am in a light sleep. The problem is that without the chime I would have to do RCs based on habit, which is kind of annoying.

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PostPosted: Sun 27 Apr, 2003  Reply with quote

Can anyone that has been successful at doing RC's with a digital wrist watch tell me exactly what the did?

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PostPosted: Thu 15 May, 2003  Reply with quote

I have been successful doing RC Reality Checks with a "Dream Watch" <-- (is a digital watch with some alarms and countdown timers)

Basically I found the RC to be key in achieving Lucid Dreams for myself in my experiments. Basically I have a Timex Ironman Triathlon watch. It's a great watch because you can use the computer to program its alarms, timers and features. You can set 10 alarms and 5 countdown timers. Perfect for the experiments I have been running.

Anyways I set the watch to go off every half hour with the hourly chime and a 1 hour repeated countdown timer. I also set the alarms but had no success using the alarms at night. I never hear them.

So every half hour I would check the text on the face of the watch three times to ensure that the date read correctly and if the watch read correctly then I would say out loud "I'm not dreaming".

I had been doing this for about 5 days and was frustrated with this technique, thinking I'm never going to dream about my watch, how is this going to help?

Unfortunately that is the wrong way to look at the RC with a watch. A subject that is mentioned a lot in information of Lucid Dreaming induction techniques is that it's all about awareness. This is absolutely correct in this case. Reinforcing this technique every day does not make you dream about your watch but makes you aware in your dream that you have a watch.

On my 6th night an RC with my watch induced a Lucid Dream. In the dream when I asked myself the question "Am I dreaming?” my first instinct was to do a RC with my watch. It worked perfectly, the first time I read the watch it looked fine, the second time the text was jumbled. Not sure still, I did it again with the same result. I then thought that I was confident that I was dreaming and away I flew.

The problem I find with trying to use the watch as a “DreamSign” in your dream is that you are at the peak of your awareness just before a potential Lucid Dream. So that even if everything that is happening in your dream is really odd you don’t realize it because everything seems so real. Your body has no hard input that you’re dreaming because all the input is now coming from your brain as oppose to when your awake, the input comes from your senses and your brain. This is why the RC with a watch is so helpful it provides the input your body needs to make the decision.


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PostPosted: Sun 18 May, 2003  Reply with quote

The RC I use with almost every LD I have is just thinking hard about how i got into the situation I am in and if i am dreaming there are always discrepencies and i realise i'm dreaming.

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PostPosted: Mon 19 May, 2003  Reply with quote

That sounds good! Worth of trying I think... eh

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PostPosted: Fri 23 May, 2003  Reply with quote

I used to look at the clock or text, this has worked for me but I find it easier to just put my hand on my face and see if I can breathe easily.

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Reality check problems
PostPosted: Sat 31 May, 2003  Reply with quote

I have been lucid dreaming regularly for a couple of years now, but have recently hit a problem. I tend to do reality checks as a matter of course during the day just to show that I am not dreaming. Recently I have been doing this in my dreams - doing reality checks which show that I am not dreaming. neutral
In a most recent example, I was flying up some stairs (I tend to do this when I am lucid). I reached a bedroom, and was about to fly out the window when it suddenly hit me "What if this is not a dream?". I decided against jumping out the window and managed to convince myself that I was awake.
I felt so annoyed about this when I woke up - ruining a perfectly good opportunity.


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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jun, 2003  Reply with quote

I'm a complete amateur so my opinion may be of no consequence at all but i think it's important when you ask yourself if you're dreaming to seriously consider the fact that you may be dreaming. If you just ask yourself if your dreaming without really considrening that you may be, you'll just fall into the routine of telling yourself no i'm not dreaming.

Like I said, i may just be wrong but this seems like a legitimate idea.


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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jun, 2003  Reply with quote

[quote="Mizzzzzzzzo"]to seriously consider the fact that you may be dreaming. If you just ask yourself if your dreaming without really considrening that you may be, you'll just fall into the routine of telling yourself no i'm not dreaming.[quote]

I find it better to actually presume you are dreaming, and then try and disprove it by finding something (or a few things, if you've got time) that make sense and wouldn't be found in a dream. But eah, that's a good idea.


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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jun, 2003  Reply with quote

A Reality Check ive used when everything was soo real!
Even tho i could jump very light.. doing acrobatic jumping to check my reality in the dream.. still i wasnt convinced that i was dreaming.
I walked out of my house and still even tho the outside was all different from waking life i still couldnt say to myself that i was dreaming because everything was t oo vivid and too real.

Here is what i did.

I closed the door and looked at the door.
I moved my hand to the lock WITHOUT having a key in my hand.
And then i did the locking movement and suddenly it clicked and i locked the door.
This was a real TurnOn, i was like in a total orgasm.
I looked around feeling like a king!


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New Reality Check!?
PostPosted: Tue 17 Jun, 2003  Reply with quote

I think I've found a couple new reality checks! They seems to work pretty well for me...
Here is the first one; there is one prerequisite: You need to have less-than-perfect vision for this to work.
I noticed that, in real life, when I wake up, my vision is blurry - I can't see the clock to do a reality check! If this happens, I instantaneously know that I am not dreaming, before I really have to DO the reality check. Similarly, with false awakenings, I realized that I was dreaming due to the fact that I could see so clearly.
Perhaps, if you have less than 20/20 vision, the first question you should ask yourself when you "wake up" is "Can I see clearly?" If you can, ask "Do I have my contacts in/my glasses on?" Hopefully, the answer really is no - you didn't just forget to take them off! q= - and you can verify your dream state from there. Though this works best with false awakenings, there's no reason why you couldn't use the "vividness factor" check anywhere in a dream.
The second reality check has also served me well in the past. First, keep your alarm clock, or a book, or some object that you could use for a reality check in a specific spot, preferably right near your bed. Use it for a reality check every time you awaken for a good while. Make sure you get used to having it in that specific place. Then, one night, move the object to a different place - far away from where it originally was. You'll find that in false awakenings, the object will still be where it originally was! Your brain hasn't had time to get used to the change yet. Ask yourself whenever you wake up if the object is really where it is supposed to be, and you might just find you're dreaming. This is still working for me, and I have moved my object a long time ago.
Sorry that was so long! I really hope it helped. Thanks for reading...good luck!


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jun, 2003  Reply with quote

For the people wearing glasses:

Wouldn't just putting your glasses off for a moment work? Or is your vision also blurry in a dream? I think it's not.

Anyone experienced with that?

JJJ


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jun, 2003  Reply with quote

Wow; what a brilliant idea, I hadn't thought of that! I'll try it if I get a chance next time...
Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I wear glasses in my dream, though. That's why I thought of the previous reality check up there. But if I am wearing glasses, and I know I'm dreaming, I'll tell you what happens when I take them off. Thanks for the idea!


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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jun, 2003  Reply with quote

Well my dream-version of my alarm clock worked just fine this morning even when i checked it 3 times when i had a false awakening. Then i went up and through a doorpost wich now has a door in it since a couple of years back... Once through the "door" i was fully dressed and sat down on a chair to have breakfast. I fell asleep on it (or the dream faded) and woke up in my bed one hour earlier than the clock was in my dream. This time the awakening was a real one.

My only lucid dream so far was triggered by a digital watch. I guess i might need the second display for it to get messed up, minutes and hours seems to work fine eh

My other RC's which i perform whenever i have a chance to are to try and put my finger through the bathroom mirror, counting fingers and reading texts in public transportation environments and of course to 'backtrack' through my thoughts. Anyone have an idea about other RC's you can do discretely without people noticing? I often dream of trains, busses, airplanes etc. So i need to be able tio do RC's in them in real life.


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