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PostPosted: Sun 20 Nov, 2011  Reply with quote

Even if you pick a character who already has a background story and all, you will probably be surprised how things can turn out! Your character might evolve on his own, resulting in a person with some completely different traits. He might ask you/want you to change his background or, if he doesn't have one yet, tell you a story of which you haven't thought at all. The possibilities are literally endless. ^^ Hope to see you and your character at the Character Chat soon!


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PostPosted: Mon 28 Nov, 2011  Reply with quote

*Warning: This is a Question Post. If you do not wish to help, then press the back button as quickly as you can.* help!

Anyone else have a strange paranoia [spelling?] about talking with your characters around other people? As if everyone else can read your mind? *Cough* Then buy my product now! *cough*

*Ahem* Even when I do try to talk to my characters around other folks, they're sort of automaticaly silenced, even if I'm not really doing anything, and I'd actually like to talk.

. . . Guess that's about it. O Great Grand CALD Thread, do you have any advice? help! *Might post again later*



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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov, 2011  Reply with quote

Hmm... I can't say I've had issues with worrying about what other people think, but I really do tend to get distracted with others around. It's hard to pay attention with so many other things going on around at the same time.


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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov, 2011  Reply with quote

Additionally to what Rhewin said, even if I do want to talk to my MC's when I'm around other people, it doesn't work so well. Guess that's because I can't really concentrate. Sometimes I also hear them talking, but I can't see/visualize them. Most of the time though I don't want to talk to them when other people are around, because I'm afraid that they will see these zoned-out look I always get when I'm daydreaming. XD


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PostPosted: Tue 29 Nov, 2011  Reply with quote

Ah, I suppose it's more some sort of instinct than fear. Like some sort of law they passed a long time ago (for some reason or other), that's basically obsolete, but you still get in trouble for breaking it.

Like if I went down an old trail in the middle of nowhere on my bike, that hasn't been used in 9001 years. And they had a law where youd can't ride your (then Flintstone-esqu) bike down it. But I rode down there and then a police man jumped out from behind a tree and said "Dude, you can't ride your bike down here." And I said "But no-one's been here in 9001 years!" And then . . . crud, I'm starting to rant randomly like Tobuscus. shy2

Anywho, I suppose the situation I'm thinking of is more kind of stuck with other people and not really talking to eachother, rather than, say, speaking to your friends at your favorite hang-out. I have a lot more time in the former situation than the latter. sadblauw Eh, I suppose that's the reason I'm asking.

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Dec, 2011  Reply with quote

Hm. The only thing I can think of about solving your problem is practice, practice, practice! Try to talk to your characters again and again when being around other people, I'm sure you'll see some results eventually. And...a pretty silly suggestion: Ask Chilam and Scout why the hell they are not talking to you if you want to. I don't think they're actually trying to ignore you, so their answers might be interesting!


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PostPosted: Sat 03 Dec, 2011  Reply with quote

Okay, thanks! I did ask my characters that, but they said it wasn't really their fault. See, I kind of have something, more of an idea than a character, called the Firewall. It's not sentient, it's more just there to represent a more annoying part of my SC , and to give everyone something to yell at when my characters can't really show up (Since there isn't really any other sort of object I can blame for this kind of stuff).

. . . Yup, that's all I can remeber that I was going to post. OUTRO OF DARKNESS!

Okay, now I should REALLY head over to the Character Chats thread now.



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PostPosted: Mon 05 Dec, 2011  Reply with quote

Hey how is everyone? I last posted in this thread in 2009. Things had been busy for me the past 2 years or so but I'm back? grin Just a quick recap, my two main characters are Desmond (Had him since I was 9) and Sen(AKA Thunzar..he changed his name xD..had him since I was 14) . I'm still in touch with them but more of Sen x3 Sen have greatly turned from a bad tempered and wild dude into somewhat a milder gentleman. Its kinda amazing how characters change as time goes by. I don't see them much in my dreams but yes, they still serves as my protectors tounge2

I had a nightmare a few months back and I panicked which made me screamed for Sen. No sooner had I did that, I was enveloped in a tight hug which calms me down a lot (complete with that warm fuzzy sensation of being hugged). Well the rest of my dream which ended quickly was spent wondering if my nightmare ended since I can barely see anything but the patterns of his sweater. Have you guys ever felt that even though that random person in your dream doesn't resemble your characters but you just instinctively know its them? I had a dream recently where someone grabbed my wrist and wouldn't let me run and then another man jogged up and grabbed my other wrist tugging me forward. Even though he looked nothing like Sen, I just got that feeling that tells me its him. Its kinda hard to describe that feeling...but its good smile


A pleasure reading what you guys posted smile Talon Arana haven't been on much right? whatsthat


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PostPosted: Fri 09 Dec, 2011  Reply with quote

*checks in on the CALD thread* woo Many postings! (really should have been checking in more often instead of just hanging around the chats)

Hey there Melody, long time no see! Good to see that Thunzar and that other guy whose name I forgot are still around. ^^

The last time Talon Arana was logged in was sometime back in March IIRC


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PostPosted: Sat 10 Dec, 2011  Reply with quote

Welcome back, Melody! bye (I would have replied a lot earlier, but life was, or rather is still, busy meh )
Aww, I wish my MCs would show up more often in my dreams...
Melody wrote:
Have you guys ever felt that even though that random person in your dream doesn't resemble your characters but you just instinctively know its them?
Yeah, a week ago or so one of my characters, Iron, was in a dream (actually the whole dream was only him and me talking to each other) but as I think about it know, he didnít look like Iron, though it definitely was him. I guess itís the same which you sometimes experience with other stuff in dreams, say, you are dreaming that you are at your school, and after you woke up you realize that it was in fact the main train station of your city or something...

I wonder why I never thought of posting some kind of progress about my characters here...So yeah, anyway. During the past couple of weeks, I had this dream about Iron but my DR was so crappy that I couldnít really remember anything about it and he was incredible mad at me during the whole day, (that was the day when he said that he wonít let me talk in the Character Chat) kind of comprehensible. He was so angry that he kept me away from random daydreaming that entire day. eek2 Fortunately, he calmed down the next day, but was still easily hacked off. Gan, the always cheerful, hyper and funny guy, was very quiet during this time, I asked him why and he said itís because he knows that his nature annoys people even more when theyíre not in a good mood anyways. I got to know Sheela, my newest character, better, we talked a lot about her family and Kubiku (whoís her boyfriend and also a MC). I am still not sure what her most outstanding traits are, but sheís more independent now. It turned out that, considering how ďunspecializedĒ her character is, Sheela is quite a good help when the atmosphere is tense because sheís so neutral.

So, while Sheela and I grew closer, I somehow lost touch with my oldest character, Neila. sadblauw Right now, I feel like Iím stuck between a rock and a hard place. What to do? On which one to focus? The older character, with whom I felt really comfortable and thought I had a very powerful bond to, or the newer one, who has yet to become fully settled and figured out? Any thoughts and tips are appreciated...

I noticed (with a little help of my MCs) that whenever I am sad/grumpy/not in a good mood, my characters are that way, too (maybe except for Gan and Kubiku)! That wasnít always the case, I remember back then, when Neila was my only character, her mood would be the complete opposite of mine, making it very enjoyable to have her around and keeping a sort of balance. Currently it seems to me like Neilaís role is kind of split to my other MCs, like Sheela = neutral, Kubiku = giving logical feedback (sometimes), Iron = grumpy and down to earth (almost pessimistic), Gan = hyper but understanding and giving tips. Now that I write this down, it sounds even more dramatically than before! D: Like Neila got silently and stealthy replaced by the others. o.O I really donít want to trouble myself too much with this because I have things to do at the moment which are definitely more important than my characters, but...I do feel sad about losing touch with Neila. Thoughts or similar experiences would really help me.

Thanks in advance, I hope I can post again on a regular basis by next weekend. smile First post then will be in the Character Chat, I promise.



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EDIT: *steps out of time machine* Hang on, this post really didn't make much sense. I would've realized this sooner, but Murphy's Law dictated that I would stop being able to connect to LD4All and that I would eventually forget about it. But since I remembered . . . KA-EDIT! By the way, for any Mod who wants to keep track of my Permanent Record *Cue lightning strike in the background*, this is the post where I broke the copyright rules because of stupid ignorance.

. . . Wait, if I end this post now, I'll cause a time paradox. Hm, what did I basically say that played a role in the following conversation? . . . Oh yeah, something like "By the way, you did ask Neila how she feels about the whole situation, right? A dumb question but I had to ask." Except with slightly more copyright.



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Hm, so it seems like the problem almost solved itself. Yes, I did asked her before, but after reading your post I asked again and with a little help of Iron we figured out that (briefly) she missed my lack of interest, so to speak, of her, and not only regarding her as a MC, but also her life. Thatís really true, I focused a lot on the background of my other characters. My approach: Trying to talk to her more often, daydream again about her life and...Choosing her for CALD!

A while back I promised myself that someday, I am going to read all of the CALD parts and I began with this during the last week. I always thought that CALD was...I donít know, pretty ineffective? To easy to work? Not officially proven, like MILD or WILD and therefore not worth a try? Well, my point of view dramatically changed after I read through the first 3 parts. Whoa, the success people actually had with this really made me stunned! One of the old CALD'ers even claimed to have almost daily LDís with the help of his character!

So in short: Iím using CALD right now. :D I decided to choose Gan and Neila at the same time, because I thought they would work great together, Gan being optimistic and Neila being reliable (not to mention that itís good for my relationship with Neila if sheís my CALD character). So far (trying since four days), no LD (Iím in a dry spell since, um, 40 days?) , but a massive increase in DR, two dreams including my characters which is usually pretty rare, and two lucid moments. woo And Iím very eager to have a CALD in no time.



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My first double post on this forum I think... So, since I left LD4all for three weeks or so, my MCs slowly faded out of existence. At first there were still some comments thrown in by mostly Gan and Iron, but then they just disappeared. Iíve tried to bring them back once, but that didnít work a bit. But now that I have time again, I tried to talk to them today and there they were, all together. grin I have to say that I really missed talking to them and even though they havenít earned me a CALD yet, a little conversation about dreaming before actually falling asleep always helped me with my DR. Right now Gan is mad at me because I ďlet them die and thought I could just call them whenever I feel like itĒ. I hope though that things will be as they were before (geez, I should prepare myself for a heated debate this night shy2 ).

Maybe I should also mention that I managed two and a half week ago to meet my MCs in a LD! grin Thanks to a very nice DC my self-confidence multiplied about x100 in the dream and that helped me to meet my MCs. The catch is though that I met them in a human form (which is my fault because I pictured them as humans before), Sheela was not with them and the part of the dream in which they were wasnít that long. But Iím still very happy with it! smile

Now I need to talk to them more and then bring the Character Chat back to life. Hope everyone is still alive...?



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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb, 2012  Reply with quote

Congratulations on meeting your characters again. An MC, at least in my experience, is usually very forgiving, but there is a line beyond which they will stop putting up with you. I think this is based partially off where their patience is and how upset with yourself you are about forgetting about them. I experienced this with my character, Crystal, recently. She started being really willing to talk with me and help me, and I kept forgetting about her, so she finally got upset with me and told me not to talk to her again until I had time for her. I think things will settle down and return to normal for you, though.

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[/i]Sorry for not posting A LOT earlier, but my invisibility cloak was stuck on lurk mode. What? Laziness? No, no, that's silly. When have I ever been lazy? Well, I'm here now (meaning: if I don't get laz-- *cough* don't get kidnapped by an evil robot, I should be here awhile. *Audience groans*) But first a spoiler from our sponsor (you won't miss anything by skipping over it):

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Recently, I read through the entire CALD thread. I learned there was once a time when posts on this thread were frequent. There were lots of posts to read, and peace reigned. (Also, Talon, I learned that I wasn't giving you nearly enough credit. Sorry. . . .) (Actually, I need to give quite a lot of the people who were here before me more credit!)(*Credit sound effect*) Anywho, I thought it would be sort of neat if there was a more constant stream of posts here. I then decided, why not start with me posting here more? (Hopefully without as many dumb questions or copyrighted links). After giving a dramatic speech that changed the lives of millions, I decided to type up a status report.

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*clears throat* So yeah, this here's a status report. You want to here about my characters, right? *Audience groan and shake their heads* What? Have you seen this one before? Er, let's just dive in here, shall we?

Scout: She hasn't been around as much as before. Actually, she's spent a lot of time exploring my mindscape (which is apparently a rather wacky place, seeing as how there's not much realism, with floating ? blocks are all over the place and the like). Actually, once she came back with gold (or rather, dead-grass colored, but gold sounds nicer ) angel wings on her back. Not like I randomly said "hey, wouldn't it be cool if Scout had angel wings" but rather, when she came back from her trip, my mental image of her just changed. Actually, there's kind of a weird story to go with it, but I'm kind of trying to keep this brief, so I won't post it now. Beside, although weird, the story's actually not that interesting.

The Unnamed LD-301: A MC that was both born and retired in the time frame between this this post and the last. See, an LD-301 is a type of robot from the Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword. If you are wondering, the LD in the name doesn't have anything to do with lucid dreaming and probably stands for Lanayru Desert (an area in the game). Now for the character itself, since this is why you're reading this paragraph and not skipping to the next one: See, I got this idea that it might sort of cool to have an LD-301 for a MC, but then I decided maybe not. I wasn't completely confident that Scout and Snowbird were 100% complete (yeesh, I take a long time with these things), and since I wasn't giving them nearly as much attention as I ought to have been, I figured a new MC could set us even further back. Still, I decided to tell Snowbird about this concept, and she decided she liked it. Then, something like following conversation occurred: "Yeah, okay, but I don't think I should try to imagine it just yet because--" *Tosses monkey wrench over shoulder*"Done!" "Greetings, master [BlueGecko]." So then I had an LD-301 following me that had no name, and not much personality (sure, it's a robot. But even in Skyward Sword, they are shown to be capable of emotion and personality). Now, it's not that I didn't want to fix it up, but I still felt like I needed to give more attention to Snowbird and Scout, as well. Eventually, I realized that I just wasn't giving it a lot of focus, so I decided that for the time being, it would probably be happier as just sort of a dream character than a mind-character. The last I saw of it, it was hovering down to the lower mindscape, wearing sunglasses and holding a briefcase. It said for itself that it sees this as a vacation.


And last but not least, we have Snowbird: She spends a lot of time up in the top layer of mindscape, there's kind of a weird story with her: *Ahem* Once upon a time, I decided to read through the CALD thread. But it had kind of a weird effect on me: it made me feel motivated to talk to my characters, sure, but it also made me feel kind of disappointed in myself, since I still felt like my characters weren't 100% complete even after all this time. But no-one was more effected by that mindset than Snowbird: She was pretty upset by it for a while. She complained quite a bit, and even seemed a bit depressed at times (though not always, sometimes she was her normal self, but she often seemed pretty upset. Though I tried to get out of the "I'm-a-Failure" mindset, I couldn't quite do it (though in retrospect, it seems like it would have been pretty simple without what happened next), but then, Snowbird had a weird idea: See, one time I was trying to help her feel better (now at this point, you're probably facepalming at my incredible talent for not doing things right), but that wasn't gonna happen. Then, Snowbird had a weird idea (oh wait, I just said that): "Hey, I know! Give me another name for a moment. I'm going to re introduce myself." Well, I thought, sure, why not, and decided to name her the first thing that came to mind (I figured this wouldn't be too serious). Said thing was "Phenac", after Phenac City from Pokemon Colosseum (Yeah, that instead of some normal name). So then, as she said, she re-introduced herself. "Hello, I'm Phenac. I'm probably one of the weirdest people you'll ever meet! grin " "Hello, wink Phenac wink , nice to wink meet wink you. I thought this would be some weird thing that would be so weird it would fix our problem. It was, but it wasn't just that: Snowbird actually gave herself amnesia, and now thought she should be called Phenac. She got her memory back, after maybe a week or 2 though. But before then, she was actually resiting getting her memory back, because she liked feeling a like new person. Well, that whole thing was sort of amusing, I sort of wish I had a few conversations written down, but I usually don't write them down anyway.

Gee, I feel tired now! There are a few more stories that I guess I'll post tomorrow* *Audience groans* but the sooner I get to bed, the sooner I'll wake up and notice all the typos and things I didn't explain very well. EDIT: There's one already.

*Translation: Tomorrow means several Earth-years later.

Later... hand voor hoofd So much for tomorrow. It hasn't even been [i]1
year! Ack, if everyone hates me, I really can't blame them. Huh. Yeah, so see how I said that even recently my characters haven't been finished? Well, yeah. That's sort of a thing with me. Progress has been slow in general, but one thing I always do, is never think of any of my work as 100% complete, and thus I always think it's gonna take forever to finish it, and therefor, I don't put a lot of effort into it. (That just applies to things of my own creation, of course.) I suppose also I might have been set back recently by the realization that I still hadn't covered 5.3% of ground. I, of course, saw that number as 53%, so of course, that was kind of the number I was bumped back to.

But, to be honest, my characters's responses (especially those of Snowbird, who had the most screen time recently) have been a lot more automatic than I ever thought they'd be. Before, I felt like I was still kind of using a bit of personal brain power (wait, I actually have that? ) to generate the replies. But I figured that that was mostly how it was supposed to be (my feeling of "not being done with them" was more based towards the fact that I couldn't usually focus on them very well and that stuff). But now, their responses are much more automatic than that! (To put this in perspective, you've been character chatting with a newb for quite awhile overspannen ) Also, I used to be able to know what they were going to say an instant before they said it, and while that still happens sometimes, they actually manage to throw a response that I wasn't specifically expecting quite a lot. Man, I feel pretty lame, seeing as how throughout most of the CALD thread, there're lots of post that, to someone like me, seem to say "I'm so good at character creation, I had a fully automatic character, before I even had a character!" [/Tobuscus voice] Well, worded like that, it sounds like anyone who would've said that would have schizophrenia, but I'm sure you know what I mean.

And, my sort-of excuse for not being on this thread like a month ago, is, well, you know how in one post I basically said I thought was mostly done, then did a 180 and said I didn't feel like my characters were developed at all? Well, I actually sort of did feel like both those thing at once, and was kind of reluctant to post on the CALD thread (or a lot on the character chats) because, well, I wasn't sure where I was on the board myself. Still, I reckon I deserve to be pelted with stones anyway.

Er, well, I guess that's my overly long post. I suppose it's finish, unless I ever get over this headache so I can really proofread it. Now in what spectacular way can I end it? Oh, I know! Vsignature which you are not required to read if you have read it beforeV

EDIT AGAIN: But first, I should say, my characters haven't been around all day, and I don't think that I could really post in the character chats without them, so uh, yeah.



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