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Ysim is your new king!
Ysim is your new king!
*bows*
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That means he must be a wolf!
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How is that even a "Poll question"?
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Eilatan
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

When is this starting? I'm interested in playing but don't know if I'll have stable internetz to play D=


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PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

Next week smile

Wolfgame 47 signups- GM: Magnus

  1. Wulf
  2. Ansie
  3. Marvin
  4. Ebilshrimp
  5. Puce
  6. LRRH
  7. Download
  8. undecidedman
  9. Fate
  10. Rhewin
  11. PhoenixMaenad
  12. Ysim
  13. Limitles
  14. Yev
  15. Slanderous
  16. Luigi
  17. wishbone116
  18. Marked One



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Slanderous
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

Swhet. ^^

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LRRH
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

** LRRH was rejected as GM because LRRH is too logical and don't understand emotional player which makes he unable to resolve conflicts **

LRRH wanted to be GM so that he could make tools to make GMing easier. But after three tries, LRRH felt enough underappreciation to think that it was not only unnecessary but unwanted. This made me think that GMs have a lot of pride in what they do--they don't want help. I don't get this and I think it is really weird.

In LRRH's mind, GMing is the tasks necessary to run the game, other than there, there is no reason to have a person to manually do it. But it looks like people actually want to do GMing. LRRH is confused and wants to know these:

To Magnus:
Do you prefer GMing over playing?


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

LRRH: I like both things but for different reasons smile GMing since you can see all that happens behind the scenes and you get some nice additional info smile and playing for not having to make sure to be there at deadline:) each day and fun interaction between players


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

I'm in!

Wolfgame 47 signups- GM: Magnus

1. Wulf

2. Ansie

3. Marvin

4. Ebilshrimp

5. Puce

666. LRRH

777. Download

Crazy 8. undecidedman

99 Bottles. Fate

10 of. Rhewin

11. PhoenixMaenad

12 the silent. Ysim

13 the movie. Limitles

14 the ?. Yev

15ssss. Slanderous

16 green ball, corner pocket. Luigi

117. wishbone116

18. (Marked + One)

19. Dragonmind



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PostPosted: Wed 24 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

19 - Dragonmind

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

Wolfgame 47 signups- GM: Magnus

  1. Wulf
  2. Ansie
  3. Marvin
  4. Ebilshrimp
  5. Puce
  6. LRRH
  7. Download
  8. undecidedman
  9. Fate
  10. Rhewin
  11. PhoenixMaenad
  12. Ysim
  13. Limitles
  14. Yev
  15. Slanderous
  16. Luigi
  17. wishbone116
  18. Marked One
  19. Dragonmind


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

Eilatan wrote:
Honestly, Children. -___-


Meh, you havent seen a real messed up list tounge1

Click here to see the hidden message (It might contain spoilers)


I put the list in a spoiler because that list has nothing with either WG47 or the real list to do



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PostPosted: Thu 25 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

LRRH is reading the Rejection Letter again because he doesn't understand the content. In particular, it mentioned that there are two kinds of players: the rational type and the emotional type.

In the Letter, LRRH was told that the way he played hurt the emotional type players, but in the end of the Letter, he was still encouraged to keep playing. That part did not make sense to LRRH because now the LRRH has the responsibility to figure out what he did.

So LRRH wants to know:
a) Who did LRRH hurt?
b) What did LRRH do?

In the last game I wanted to do an Alliance because based on WG46, I learned that there were details that were not well understood (the difference between who could know and who could not know the roles, and how to vote out a target without destroying the voting pattern).

However, I also understood that an Alliance was a game-ending device, therefore I took the step to ask the other players before I would start it. I randomly asked three other players, and decided that I would start an Alliance as long as one of them would say yes. It turned out that, at least in RP, all three wanted the Alliance.

I killed Wulf because I didn't want Wulf to think that I was somehow going easy on her just because she brought me back. I thought that she might have saved me hoping that I would somehow betray the villagers and turn into vampire, but Little Red Riding Hood is afraid of getting in such a situation and would do what it takes to eliminate that possibility. LRRH thought he hurt Wulf because Wulf PM'ed him after the game and when he read it it sounded sarcastic.


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Eisna
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

confirmations pm sent, if you weren't on the signuplist but want to play, send a pm to this account.

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

You did not hurt me, I enjoy playing with you ^^ .

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

Wow, that IS a really messed up list. I think I turned in on time, hope this is a good one, I have my computer back!


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PostPosted: Sat 27 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

LRRH wrote:
LRRH is reading the Rejection Letter again because he doesn't understand the content. In particular, it mentioned that there are two kinds of players: the rational type and the emotional type.

In the Letter, LRRH was told that the way he played hurt the emotional type players, but in the end of the Letter, he was still encouraged to keep playing. That part did not make sense to LRRH because now the LRRH has the responsibility to figure out what he did.


The PM said that the way you played demonstrated a lack of understanding of Emotional players, who play for fun above all else, including winning, that is different. It makes you unsuitable for a role as an arbitrator since it would mean you were biased, those making the decision as to whether you would make a good GM or not had reason to believe it will hinder your ability to take a neutral perspective. Which is fundamental to being an effective GM. It doesn't however mean you shouldn't continue to play.



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PostPosted: Sat 27 Aug, 2011  Reply with quote

Re:

** LRRH doesn't recognize GreenDragon. Is GreenDragon a GM?**

How do you know that LRRH himself is not an emotional player?

Emotional Player characteristic:
1: Emotional players play for fun above all else, including winning

LRRH behavior:
o LRRH "lives in the RP". He restricts his RG options based on RP.
o Almost always play in suspicious / risky ways, because he thinks that his focus on RP is stressful for others who are trying to RG.
o Doesn't mind getting voted out, killed or lose. Always write death scene and expects to die early
o Lost 4 times in a row, perfectly happy, in the last game he thought he was going to lose the whole game also but it just didn't happen.
o Spends way more time RPing, and drawing instead of RG.
o Did not start Alliance on his own even when he knew the killing on Night 3 could be prevented, and instead waited after he was done drawing and for approval by other villagers. As a result, the village lost a garlic and the vampires get to kill that night.
o LRRH started the Alliance thinking that he would definitely lose by doing so. But he had no reason not to do it because it was both fun and it was good for the other villagers.
o Transferred control of Alliance to Rhewin in order to make time for drawing and RP, and RPed about it.

Conclusion:
LRRH is alert and understand RG, but he was definitely not playing to win.
Do you agree that the evidence shows that LRRH does not violate the characteristic of an emotional player you stated so far?

How do you know that LRRH is not an emotional player?

If the characteristic above is the main one, the evidence shows that LRRH actually meets the requirement. So unless you have evidence that shows otherwise, that characteristic is irrelevant. In that case you could show the relevant characteristic. However, by doing so, it shows that you had made an incorrect judgement.

If you do have counter evidence, LRRH expects that the reply will be prompt, because according to the order of events, the decision was already made, the counter evidence should be immediately available.


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