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esbspecial
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PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar, 2010  Reply with quote

Every night I have at least one lucid dream. I have also been known to sleepwalk, have woken up while driving to work and can sleep through the end of the world (at least according to my wife). Unfortunetly, my dreams aren't very fun.

As soon as I realize I am dreaming, every bit of fantasy disappears. While I can control and am aware of what is happening, everything is based on the natural laws of the world; no flying or any of that cool stuff simply because I know that is impossible. It is frustrating to say the least. I wonder if that is the reason why I never seem to get a good night's sleep and wake up rested...


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PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar, 2010  Reply with quote

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Every night I have at least one lucid dream. I have also been known to sleepwalk, have woken up while driving to work and can sleep through the end of the world (at least according to my wife). Unfortunetly, my dreams aren't very fun.

As soon as I realize I am dreaming, every bit of fantasy disappears. While I can control and am aware of what is happening, everything is based on the natural laws of the world; no flying or any of that cool stuff simply because I know that is impossible. It is frustrating to say the least. I wonder if that is the reason why I never seem to get a good night's sleep and wake up rested...

can't you tell yourself that it is imagination, and so, you MUST be able to fly.


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PostPosted: Thu 01 Apr, 2010  Reply with quote

I cannot stand not having control over myself at any given point in time, and that too translates to the unconcious. I know that it is a dream, yet I also seem to know that if I allow myself to let the imagination go nuts, I feel a loss of control over all aspects of the dream. That gets scary fast...and usually I wind up telling myself to wake up in the dream, but to no avail.

For anyone who has read up on Julian Rotter's theories of self effecacy, it's a locus of control deal; mine is focused on my internal cognition.


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PostPosted: Thu 01 Apr, 2010  Reply with quote

Before I knew the concept of Lucid dreaming, I had a "false lucid" dream?
The dream started with me standing in front of a 10 foot or so fence, and I had an instant thought (I always get these in dreams), I just KNEW i could front flip the fence in slow motion, but I couldn't understand why (I had no concept of conscious dreaming).

So I just jumped and slowly flipped over it, and I was full of excitement as I landed on the other side, I thought this was somewhat real life, so after I landed I turned around and did it again. I just kept wondering how can I do this, I remembering going through possibilities but I just could not land onto the thought of a dream.

After waking up though, I was shocked as to what I had just dreamed, and I wondered if I had really somewhat took control of a dream or what really just happened, LOL.


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PostPosted: Mon 05 Apr, 2010  Reply with quote

I remember as a child having dreams where in the dream I said 'I am in a dream'.

I always had lots of dreams and I was always able to remember them very well. And years ago without knowing anything about lucid dreams inorder to overcome my nightmares I decided that I will know when I am dreaming. And that is how I was able to become lucid without knowing anything about the subject. First I just forced myself to be conscious during my nightmares but then I improved my technique and I was able to do whatever I want in my dream. I was able to go to places, I was able to lengthen my dream and I was able to fly. I basically got conscious that I was dreaming before hearing about lucid dreams and I enjoyed it alot..

But then I had a baby and my sleep patern got terrible and I was not able to have dreams let alone being lucid. And recently, 6 months ago I heard about this as a concept. I said to myself I was doing this so I can do it again. Since my realization I had 4 LDs but then it stopped. It just stopped. I can not become lucid anymore. And it is terrible for me. I think last time I was lucid was a month or two months ago. No matter how hard I try I can not become lucid. One night I had a false awaking thats all. I want to be lucid again. Now am I natural or not?! :help:


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PostPosted: Sat 17 Apr, 2010  Reply with quote

My very first lucid dream was one that came about without any knowledge that it was even possible. Of course, I was probably ten or so and it was such a huge revelation that I didn't really know what to do with it. It was a particularly unpleasant dream, so my first impulse was to pick up a phone on which someone had called me, shout, "Yeah, well, guess what, this is a dream! So THERE!" and then hang up and wake myself up. neutral Somewhat less productive than it could have been, that one.

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Apr, 2010  Reply with quote

I answered yes, because I can remember an occasional instance or two where I realized I was dreaming. However, it wasn't much more than that. It was a "oh cool" kind of moment but I didn't really understand that I could influence anything or exert any control over the dream state.

That said, I don't really feel Iike I was a natual. Learning to LD was a process that took time and effort to get proficient at. I by no means decided to learn to LD and started having 1 per night all the time; but as my dream recall, focus, and most importantly confidence grew to became easier and easier to have LD's.


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Apr, 2010  Reply with quote

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As soon as I realize I am dreaming, every bit of fantasy disappears. While I can control and am aware of what is happening, everything is based on the natural laws of the world; no flying or any of that cool stuff simply because I know that is impossible. It is frustrating to say the least. I wonder if that is the reason why I never seem to get a good night's sleep and wake up rested...


Therin lies your problem. It is not impossible to fly, as you are dreaming. No rules, laws, or regulations apply to the dream state. You need to get yourself to believe that you can fly, because of course you can. Once you do you won't have any problem doing . Stop telling yourself its difficult or immpossible, because its not. It's actually quite easy; as long as you don't self impose the laws of physics into your own dreams.


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PostPosted: Tue 27 Apr, 2010  Reply with quote

I don't remember having lucid dreams as a child but recently I've definitely had a couple accidental lucid dreams

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Apr, 2010  Reply with quote

when i was a kid i use to have actual lucid dreams i remmber them very clearly too. ii remmber the same dream over and over again. i use to turn out of my bed and jump and get smaller and run around the floor it was odd. and as if i remmber it too it was yearrrss ago o.o i knew i was dreaming.

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PostPosted: Mon 03 May, 2010  Reply with quote

I've always lucid dreamed naturally. I haven't used any outside stimulus or techniques to force them to happen. I'm always somewhat lucid in my dreams: I choose where I want to go and with whom. Then extras come when I need them...

If I'm trying to escape from somewhere or someone, my agility and speed instantly increase and I can get away.

If I need to fly, I either jump or grow wings and up I go. Of course, the results on that varies - it depends on my confidence that night. Generally though, my skill improves every time I fly in a dream.

Or if I'm trapped, in my mind the answer to get out of it manifests in my mind and I'm freed.

This wasn't just as a child - I still LD this way. -shrug- They're pretty easy to have... all I need to do is focus on having one in that moment before I fall asleep, and I wake up dreaming. smile


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PostPosted: Thu 06 May, 2010  Reply with quote

Does 14 count? If so yes, but assuming that early childhood(10 and under) was meant, I voted no.

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PostPosted: Fri 07 May, 2010  Reply with quote

[quote="flyinghawkins"]I've always lucid dreamed naturally. I haven't used any outside stimulus or techniques to force them to happen. :)[/quote]

I cannot use any techniques either. I can only become lucid naturally. I used RC couple of times. That worked but RC is also something like you allready realize 'am I dreaming' and then do the RC. I can become lucid naturally but this only happens once a month or so...

When I try the techniques they don't work. Then I feel like I can not become lucid because I want it too much. And then when I let it go I become lucid.
I wish I could become lucid more often.
But I read that becoming lucid more often maybe dangerous. Is it really? I can not belive what harm can be there?!


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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jun, 2010  Reply with quote

I wouldn't call myself a natural, because I've never tried to purposely have a LD. But when I was younger (around 6-13) I used to have dreams, well nightmares actually, and I was aware of my conciousness and I could control what I did. I never tried to have these dreams, they just came to me. It was freaky though because I was always being chased by something and I always tried to wake myself up, but I could never wake up. The last time I had one of those dreams was a couple of years ago. I want to to try to have another LD but I'm kind of scared.

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jun, 2010  Reply with quote

Am I a natural? Heck no, I'm like an un-natural o.O

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