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really  ? that's weird...sounds like crap, if i had a compass i'd try it out tho 
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Posts: 708
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Location: Cyrodill LDs:Total-11 July-1
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| Posted: Sat 31 Jul, 2004 |
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check out this site:http://consumerhealthdigest.com/sleepaids2.htm
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Location: Cambridge, England
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| Posted: Sat 31 Jul, 2004 |
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Things that help me to get to sleep:
50mg diphenhydramine (or equivalent dose of other antihistimine)
Sleeping pills are good but addictive
Meditation <--- This is very rewarding. I feel wierd tingling sensations all over when I do it right
Getting up early <----- IMO 90% of people who say they have insomnia just lay in too late. Me included.
Things that I've heard are good for sleep (but haven't tried enough to say)
Camomile tea
Lavender oil (?)
Turkey, milk and cheese.
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Location: A wheelbarrow in Canada
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| Posted: Fri 06 Aug, 2004 |
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Although sleeping pills and other medicines do help to make you fall asleep faster they can become addicting...
My mind tends to do the same thing and wanders around random thoughts for at least an hour before I can fall asleep. Getting up early and excercising definitely helps and I'm sure meditation would be of benefit as well. The one strange thing that helps me to fall asleep though is listening to that static sound you get in between radio stations. I guess it keeps me focused on one thing and makes my brain less active when trying to fall asleep. Its soothing too... quite relaxing, as odd as that sounds. So experiment... and find what works for you. There are foods and drugs and music and all sorts of other stuff that work for different people. Just gotta find your thing.
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Location: hare krishna hare krishna, krishna krishna hare hare! hare rama hare rama, rama rama hare hare!
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| Posted: Fri 06 Aug, 2004 |
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where did you hear the average person takes 8 minutes?
That seems like BS to me....... well... I mean, like if you're on vacation and therefore automatically tired as hell and you have been excercising all day MAYBE
it's 5:32 a.m. and I haven't gone to sleep yet, took a melatonin and tried to for about 30 minutes.
I can get "to" sleep in 5 minutes flat, but i just get realy intense and disconcerting myoclonic jerks over and over and over and over and over and over and over (i'm going to type this till i feel tired) and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
then i'm not tired anymore.
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| Posted: Fri 06 Aug, 2004 |
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Try warm milk with a little bit of vanilla and sugar in it. Works really well for me and anyone else I know whose tried it.
Or, try counting: 1, im dreaming, 2, im dreaming, etc. Sorta like sheep but Dreams instead. 
Or, i read somewhere that when you breath in, in your mind say Ham, and when you breath out, say, in your mind Sa. Over and over and concentrate on the Hamsa, don't let your mind drift, or if it does bring it back to concentrating on Hamsa. That works for me too. Or, if you've been doing it long enough and get board, try the Hamsa and counting, but not one after the other, at the same time. That requires a lot of concentration and you dont even notice yourself going to sleep.
But it usually takes me about half an hour to get to sleep too.
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| Posted: Mon 16 Aug, 2004 |
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yey people the same as me, it can take me about 2-6 hours to get to sleep most nights if i get any atall, this can get really annoying as i then really feel the need for sleep during the day.
Apparantly this could be due to my diet. i think its the way some peoples minds work though, if you have a busy mind then its really hard to relax your mind to get to sleep and this is also the same if you tend to 'fidgit' around alot. I know thats absoulutly no help but it might give some more information for somebody else to.
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| Posted: Mon 16 Aug, 2004 |
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A few quick tips on insomnia:
=> Do something active during the day but, do not exercise or anything in the evening.
=> Spend as little time as possible in you bedroom. You bedroom should be used for sleeping and sex only.
=> Don’t watch the clock when you are trying to sleep.
=> Don’t try to go to sleep unless you are at least a little tired.
=> If you are not tired try reading for a ½ hour then watch tv with all other lights off till you are tired enough to sleep.
=> ( optional but helps a lot) study meditation or self hypnosis.
Since you asked about sleeping pills I’ll share my experience:
=> Benadryl and similar antihistamines can help.
=> Melatonin - did not help me much
=> Xanax- works good but, is addictive. Did not prevent me form lucid dreaming.
=> Ambien - Works great and is less addictive than other medications but, I had trouble lucid dreaming on them.
=> Other traditional sleeping pills are highly addictive and in my opinion should be used as a last resort.
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| Posted: Mon 16 Aug, 2004 |
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I do the 61 point relaxation method everynight, and I fall asleep imediatly after doing it....
So I would suggest a relaxation method 
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| Posted: Mon 16 Aug, 2004 |
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Yes in my opinion meditation or relaxation is best. But that is just what is best fo me. I included info about medication because it is an option and I don’t want to push my views on anyone else.
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| Posted: Mon 16 Aug, 2004 |
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| Apparantly this could be due to my diet. i think its the way some peoples minds work though, if you have a busy mind then its really hard to relax your mind to get to sleep and this is also the same if you tend to 'fidgit' around alot. I know thats absoulutly no help but it might give some more information for somebody else to. |
Yeah I find that a lot. I keep thinking about stuff. Or say if I try to clear my mind... I'll try to sleep too hard and get frustrated, and since sleep is about relaxation how am I gonna sleep if I get frustrated every time I try?
Bah... me hate sleep...
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| I do the 61 point relaxation method everynight, and I fall asleep imediatly after doing it.... |
61 points?! 
Explain... sounds quite complicated...
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| Posted: Mon 16 Aug, 2004 |
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A few quick tips on insomnia:
Do something active during the day but, do not exercise or anything in the evening.
Spend as little time as possible in you bedroom. You bedroom should be used for sleeping and sex only.
Don’t watch the clock when you are trying to sleep.
Don’t try to go to sleep unless you are at least a little tired.
If you are not tired try reading for a ½ hour then watch tv with all other lights off till you are tired enough to sleep. |
I read that in some home remodies book
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| Posted: Mon 16 Aug, 2004 |
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Yeah I find that a lot. I keep thinking about stuff. Or say if I try to clear my mind... I'll try to sleep too hard and get frustrated, and since sleep is about relaxation how am I gonna sleep if I get frustrated every time I try?
Bah... me hate sleep... |
I was just thinkin u said u sleep easy in busses or cars perhaps thats cus the noise is drowning out you thoughts? Have you tried listening to music before you go to sleep? im gonna try that tonight
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| Posted: Mon 16 Aug, 2004 |
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I usually get to sleep in half an hour to an hour. I don't consider it insomnia. But prehaps you are trying to hard.
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| Posted: Mon 16 Aug, 2004 |
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it takes me at least 2 hours but i dont think i have insomnia... i thought 2 hours was normal
but if you are worried try diphenhydramine but keep it under 500mg
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