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dman
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Apr, 2008  Reply with quote

this technique is AMAZING. i have NEVER EVER gotten WILD to be even remotely sucessful. But after a few nights (maybe even the same day) of trying to remember to wake up with my eyes closed and not move, i did it. i was lying down and woke up. i almost immediately went into hypnogogic imagery for my first time ever. I stepped into the dream as i've never done before and entered my lucid dream. I woke up again after a while and it worked again. this morning it ended up ALMOST working again, i got into the dream but didnt have any sight, i dont really know how to explain it but i knew what was going on but i couldnt see it. unfortunately i noticed that these dreams are shorter and less vivid and i was wondering how to fix that. but i think that this technique might work so well because when we are waking up, we are actually in a false awakening and we expect the WILD to work so quickly and thats why it does. i mean we wont really be able to know but even if its not really false awakenings and we really do wake up, this would be EXTREMELY helpful with false awakenings because even if we didnt know we were dreaming, we would enter a lucid dream anyway. All in all, chaining is awesome.

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Apr, 2008  Reply with quote

I attempted this last night. I had a lucid dream just out of the blue, while I was enjoying that, i Was midflight flying, and i suddenly woke up, but i made a slight movement with my foot so that probably compromised the tech. But I'm going to try again tonight.


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PostPosted: Sat 19 Apr, 2008  Reply with quote

This is quite cool. I did it this morning "accidentally". The reason why Im not writing things like "I HAD A LD!!!" is it didnt work 100%.
I had a dream and then I woke up. It was one of those slooow wakenings, so I realized Im waking up. I wanted to stay in the dream. I tried really hard and then I remembered this technigue. So I concentrated on not moving. Slowly I began to feel heavy. I was lying on my side with one foot lying on another. Then the foot on top started to hurt and it was getting worse and worse. After a while I gave up and changed position. I was still tired, so I closed my eyes and started to fall asleep slooowly. After a while I heard voices and moments later I realised they were voices from my dream!!! Then it felt quite strange: It was like if I didnt dream the dream (heh ^^ ), it was more liked I watched it as a movie. I seen a character and I knew it was me, but I wasnt controling myself....strange feeling, kind of 3rd person view, but it was different from a real 3rd person view.... But the strangest thing was that I was also percieving reality...I heard RL sounds, but it was different from normal dream. It felt like on the right side there was real world and on the left there was dream. Because of this I couldnt concentrate on the dream, so I had only partial control of it.
Also after this I continued to fall asleep, just as its described in first post of this topic, but I didnt get lucid.
Im going to try again next morning. Ill just have to remember to lay still when I wake up.
Soz for long and probably uninteresting post.


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PostPosted: Sat 19 Apr, 2008  Reply with quote

please help me does anyone have any tips for when you wake up and not move because i keep moving and then get mad! grrr

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr, 2008  Reply with quote

This finally did work for me. Wasn't intentional. I remember I was in a dream, I was running and i woke up. I just kept still, but I wasn't really 'there'. I became concious when the HI was there, I saw...me. It then dissapeard and another 'me' appeard a few meters next to the origonal me. I then had SP, was VERY weird, sounds, feelings, my body felt weird. It lasted about 5 seconds, I then suddenly warped into a dream bed. The warping is beyond describing, It just ...happend. I was then in my room, lucid. I had a little lucid dream, but I had a false awakening so I couldn't chain again sadblauw.

First WILD though. And I think i'll be able to do it without chaining, but Chaining could be useful in getting a ticket back into the dream world after a LD has ended.



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PostPosted: Sun 11 May, 2008  Reply with quote

I think I've done this a few times in the past, but yesterday morning I went in and out of LD's about 3 times. grin

ld411, I think I also have this problem... I can usually only stay still if I wake up from a LD, since there's no break in consciousness... shy2

EDIT: Any tips for not moving after I wake up? Or should I just stick to lots of auto-suggestion??


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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jun, 2008  Reply with quote

How long are you supposed to stay still? I remembered this morning about this and tried to do it, but I gave up after about 30 mins or so. It didnt work, and I knew it wouldnt work. Is it possible that I was too rested to "fall asleep" again?

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jun, 2008  Reply with quote

LukeJ wrote:
How long are you supposed to stay still? I remembered this morning about this and tried to do it, but I gave up after about 30 mins or so. It didnt work, and I knew it wouldnt work. Is it possible that I was too rested to "fall asleep" again?


You were probably thinking too much or too excited or too tense.

This is actually a great technique, don't remember if any of my LD's have been from this technique though.


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jun, 2008  Reply with quote

Two quick questions:

I've been doing this thing when I'm able to wake up and not move where I imagine I'm touching a wall with my hands. After a few seconds I can actually feel the wall. Then I try to open my eyes in the dream. It has worked great for me.

So, first question: can this be considered chaining as well?

and can chaining (or this wall touching thing, if it's not chaining) be considered a WILD?

I've been a bit unsure latelly, that's all, when I say I've had a few WILD's...

thanks


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jun, 2008  Reply with quote

I think it's a bit of both, to be honest. WILD is just not losing conciousness during the sleep stage and entering the dream. You're doing that by not moving and focusing on something visual. So yeah, it's WILD + Chaining. :D

I think I might try it how you do it.



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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jun, 2008  Reply with quote

cool, thanks! I thought it was WILD but then I read about all the WILD experiences where theres SP and HI and crazy heart beating...

Anyway, yeah, give it a try. It seams (for me at least) that my sense of touch comes a lot easier than my sight. Just a few seconds imagining and "hey, a wall!"

Anyway, chaining rocks. :D


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PostPosted: Wed 14 Jan, 2009  Reply with quote

iv still not managed to wild, but waking up after a dream and not moving gets you to fall back asleep immediately with a very clear mind. I normally find that i immediately DILD after this. I had earlier today like four lucid dreams in a row, but i didnt wild for any of them.

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jul, 2009  Reply with quote

This topic should continue, very interesting technique. I did it last night and i think i didn't open my eyes but i moved my body, i was sleeping on my back and it was hurting apparently, so perphaps i should sleep in a comfortable pos

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jul, 2009  Reply with quote

This time I woke up from a nightmare, and stayed still and didn't opened my eyes BUT couldn't DEILD. Maybe I was too tense? Nonetheless I 'felt' this 'buzzing'... neutral

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jul, 2009  Reply with quote

Sounds interesting! It can be hard for me to focus on concepts, as my mind wanders a lot, so maybe working on MILD or WILD along with this would help a lot. However, I'm guessing it'll take a lot of practice and getting used to, since it's instinct to open my eyes and start moving. I thrash around in my sleep enough as it is. It sounds easier, though.... I guess you never know until you try. I've done something similar when I want to fall back asleep while thinking I want to be or don't want to be in the same dream. It has worked to take me back to the same dream before, so it'll probably work similarly here. ^^

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