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hmm, I've tried it after 5-7 hours of sleep so far.
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| Posted: Tue 02 May, 2006 |
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If I stay up for a long period of time (i.e. thirty minutes or more), I have trouble getting back to sleep. WBTB is thus difficult for me, at least the way most people do it. I find it better to wake up for a brief period of time.
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Location: once you open these doors they do not close
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| Posted: Tue 02 May, 2006 |
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I usually go to bed at 10:30 or 11:00 and set my alarm for 2:30 or 3:00. I stay up for about fifteen miniutes, either reading and/or thinking about LD'ing, or use a dream enhancing substance or food. If you have trouble getting back to sleep, reading is a good activity, seeing as it makes you tired. As for lucid foods, try dairy or a banana, becuase they have tryptophan, which makes you tired.
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| Posted: Tue 02 May, 2006 |
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I'll try wakin up at 3 and let you guys know what happens, thanks!
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Location: Toronto
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| Posted: Wed 03 May, 2006 |
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When I first tried WBTB I woke up at 6:00 am, but couldn't get back to sleep. So I moved it back to 3:00 am.
Later I found I was too tired at 3:00, so currently I wake up at 5:00am. 
I think its good to try different times and find out what works best for you.
Current LD goal(s): ability to WILD
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Location: Arizona. Valley of the (Accursed) Sun.
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| Posted: Wed 03 May, 2006 |
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When I try WBTB, I never get out of bed except to check the time. If I stay up for an hour (like it is recommended somewhere), it's harder for me to fall back asleep.
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| Posted: Wed 03 May, 2006 |
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Like MMN said, I also feel that one hour is just too long. I think that 15 minutes is fine, probably less would work too, plus I usually get around eight hours sleep beforehand, but thats just me. You should experiment and find what works for you
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| Posted: Fri 05 May, 2006 |
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my first LD ever (2 nights ago) was after my friend called me randomly to tell me about his dream and then i fell back asleep.
last night, i tried WBTB (i read the forums for 10 mins) and i ended up having a lucid moment.
i frequently do WBTB (without reading hte forums) and attempt to WILD but that has been unsuccessful for me.
Would WILDing after reading the forums still induce a lucid dream like normal WBTB even if i dont succeed in WILD? or should i just do strict WBTB without WILD?
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| Posted: Fri 05 May, 2006 |
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Sorry if this smallish piece of information can already be found somewhere in this maze, but as a somewhat lazy person I figured I could just go ahead and ask it directly.
I "found" lucid dreaming a few weeks ago, and had a lucid moment on the following night. Of course, seeing as I had read so little about LD techniques, I had no idea how to maintain the low lucidity I had. Even if it was short, it sure as hell was impressive. After that night I have had a few more lucid "moments", but nothing I could call a whole dream or high lucidity. I still have to find my own way of having them, and WBTB caught my eye.
I am one of those people who fall asleep slowly, but who have high motivation. So my question is that if I am about to try out the WBTB method should I start some WILD techniques instantly after waking up and hope for the best or should I stay up for a time and then get back to bed? Naturally the instant WILDing is more suitable for me, but if staying up for a while means a lot more efficiency, I may have to sacrifice the comfortability and suitability for it.
Maybe those who have more trouble falling asleep could harness that attribute in the instant WILDing method? Could they stay awake longer and have better chances to stay awake through the whole ordeal?
Thanks in advance.
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| Posted: Thu 18 May, 2006 |
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I'm a firm follower of WBTB, I'm lucky to be able to fall back asleep really well. I get a great assortment of DILD's and WILD's.
My question is, how many times can you do it in one night?
If I wake up at 4am, go back to bed at 4:30... how long should I let myself sleep before doing it again? I'm afraid to wake myself up during (or even worst before) an LD.
Ideas?
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| Posted: Fri 19 May, 2006 |
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I think REM cycle is roughly 90 minutes. May vary by person.
I believe that interrupted sleep helps with LDs. When I sleep 8 hours straight I never seem to get lucid.
Currently I'm doing WBTB at 3:00 and 5:00. But I only stay up 5 to 10 minutes. If I feel very tired at 3:00 I shut off 5:00 alarm.
Current LD goal(s): ability to WILD
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| Posted: Tue 30 May, 2006 |
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I'm still toying with the perfect formula. My alarm wakes me for work at 7am.
I surf a bit around LD4All during my WBTB, usually about 30mins awake. 2 and 5 is pretty good, I think.
How long do successful WBTB'ers stay awake?
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| Posted: Wed 31 May, 2006 |
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It depends on the induction technique you use. For MILD/autosuggestion, a 45 mn WBTB is told to be the best. For WILD, you don't need such a long time and some people even don't go out of their bed.
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| Posted: Sat 10 Jun, 2006 |
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i did my first real WBTB last night, and it was a success!  i did it almost exactly like how Darxide said to do in the lucid library. the only thing i changed was i didnt take a shower since i already take 2 a day as it is, 3 would just send me over the edge. and i stayed up for 45 minutes due to reading basilus' last post.
i wrapped myself up in a large comforter, put on some trance and surfed ld4all. it took about a half hour to get back to sleep. i chose to use MILD. whats interesting to me is i had my very first FA in my ND before it turned into a LD, where i thought about how it was too bad that WBTB didnt work this time. i also had a FM of it taking me 2 hours to fall asleep with WBTB.
this happy girl is going to play some Oblivion until she feels like typing the dream up in her diary 
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| Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2006 |
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I tried WBTB last night and didn't get a lucid dream but the best dream recall I ever had. I set my alarm for 5:00 and 8:00 but when I woke up I just went back to sleep quickly(less than a minute) and when I woke up at 8:00 I was so tired I went back to sleep again for a short dream. I remembered all 3 dreams last night very vividly.
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