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PostPosted: Sat 27 Aug, 2005  Reply with quote

That's great Wolf smile

Tonight I did WBTB after I dreamed about the wolfgame (I never played it, but already dreamed about it ) I didn't planned it either, just woke up and thought I could use it as WBTB. I did have a LD but it wasn't very long and I didn't have much control.


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PostPosted: Mon 05 Sep, 2005  Reply with quote

Alright, I just literally woke up for a WBTB and I made some cereal(special K with 2% milk)

This won't damper my chances to WILD in about 15 mintues... will it?


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PostPosted: Mon 05 Sep, 2005  Reply with quote

You tell us, did you succeed? smile

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Sep, 2005  Reply with quote

Nope I didn't succeed. I had a dream thought but I forgot to record it, I forgot it completely.

When I laid down I didn't expect to fall asleep as fast as I did.


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

I use autosuggestion for waking upat 4 am.

But when i wake up i doesn`t remember that I have gone to sleep and thinks that its time to sleep sadblauw
Then i move and wakes me up more

Any thoughts of what to do ?


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

When I wake up at night in total darkness in the bed in my room and don't know what just happened, I usually assume that I woke from sleep. I don't really see your problem.
Also the point of WBTB is to wake you up. Get out of bed, do something, then get back and sleep. I wake up every night to recall dreams but I don't use every chance for a complete WBTB. I just take a leak and use MILD.


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

If you wanna use wild its the best to just stay , and in some variations you should not even move .
And sometimes I just doesn`t remember waking up , just that im in my bed .
And I have even gone back to sleep ....


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

Pettertombos wrote:
If you wanna use wild its the best to just stay , and in some variations you should not even move .
And sometimes I just doesn`t remember waking up , just that im in my bed .
And I have even gone back to sleep ....
Maybe you need some more time and practice? I don't know. Whenever I wake up, I'm fully aware.
To recall my dream, I usually have my eyes closed for a minute or two and don't fall asleep.

Maybe you could practice it by doing WBTB for a short time and get used to it. That way you have to be aware when you wake up. Then, when you want to try WILD and you wake up from a dream, you will automatically be aware, but that time, just stay in bed and try WILD. Or just open your eyes when you wake up. Get some external input and check out reality.

Or maybe I misunderstood your problem..?


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

autosuggestion worked for mr the first couple of times to get up at 3, but its hasnt worked in over 2 weeks...
And can you say "i will wake up in 3 hours" or does it have to be a specific time, like "i will wake up at 3:00"
Thx


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PostPosted: Sun 16 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

Steve both may work or may not, experiment and find out what works for you (try to wake up after a full sleep cycle, let's say 3 or 4.5 or 6 hours, should work best).

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

Ok thanks
And when you say "full sleep cycle" do you have to add on the time it takes for you to fall asleep? so if i take 30 min. to fall asleep i add it to 3 or 4.5 hours?
Thx again


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PostPosted: Sun 16 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

Yes but it's not extremely important I think to know exactly when you fall asleep. You could also try "after 3 hours of sleep, I'll wake up", this way it doesnt matter when you fall asleep.

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

nervous good idea
Thx


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PostPosted: Mon 17 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

I used WBTB last but I used a WILD before I went to bed in the first place and concentrated on have a lucid and those were the two things I concentrated on when I woke up I ate some chocolate(helps induce dreams somehow) read forums on her for about 30 mins to have lucidness on my mind and did another WILD with 1 I'm dreaming 2 I'm dreaming Etc. Then when I couldn't here myself counting ne more I remebered I'm dreaming and said it and then was like Dude I'm dreaming awesome results.

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Oct, 2005  Reply with quote

Do people think the following approach to WBTB will work, if I am consistent with it and do it every night:

I normally get up at 6am.

Wake up at 3am. Switch on computer, and spend 30 minutes reading peoples Dream Diaries on LD4all, and then just go back to bed and drift off to sleep. Just that, no other methods, no WILD or MILD.

It's just I've never really been any good at the whole "falling asleep conciously" approach, or anything related to that, because if I try too hard to stay awake then I just never go back to sleep, but if I don't try hard enough, I just fall asleep.

I'm thinking, if consistency is the key, if I kept this up night after night, exact same time every night, and exactly the same routine, this could really work. I'd be keeping up a routine, and filling my head with the topic of LDs before going back to sleep each time.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this
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