1st… about DMT… what if you got shot in the head or had it completely eradicated by some large… shrapnel, or something… no tripping for you?
anyway…i’m not sure if this belongs in here or not, it’s kind of a redundant rewording of what i’ve said in the meditation thread, maybe… but
i’ve found two things about meditation, which i’ll try to keep brief…
- falling asleep/hypnagogia… okay, traditionally, I can get to the borderline entrance to the hypnagogic state withint 15 minutes by doing any of the following, depending on what feels best.
I do moderately shallow breathing, whatever feels comfortable… and I listen to my fan while focusing on that… I take the first thing to enter my head, which usually doesn’t make much sense as it’s a mixture of conscious/unconscious thought, and i repeat it until I hear something else that catches my interest, then i repeat that… and this keeps going for quite a while… say… 1 minute… and then I lose track a bit… hit a gap in the chain of thought, and I get a small jolting feeling… I start it up agian… it goes on even longer… I get a bigger jolt… pretty soon I’m on the verge of entering sleep… and the jolts are very chaotic… I’m no longer able to focus very well… I’m seeing some imagery, I can usually voluntarily induce it… but it’s very clipped, fragmented, and behind the blackness, as opposed to 100% seeing it… when I go under into unconsciousness I can sometimes enter it… but I am not in control of myself, my unconscious is.
I will go in/out at least a dozen or more times if I keep doing this… I cannot stay conscious inside it… I cannot stay unconscious inside it long enough to fall asleep, either… so…
at this point I try all sorts of things that never work, give up… and go to sleep (or if it’s during the day… get up…)
Now I know this takes me into REM… at least, partially… becuase sometimes I feel a delayed rush of paralysis, and the only way I can describe this is surgery. When I broke my arm and had pins put in it… when I woke up… I was screaming in horrible pain… it was the worst thing I had ever felt in my entire life… but… it was already over no more than 2-3 seconds passed, and I felt nothing in the arm anymore… it was like delayed sensory input… like the pain signals were indeed sent to the brain… but… the brain wasn’t paying attention until just then, upon waking up… and it got a damn huge sudden rush, processing it all.
That is what the paralysis is like, I feel it, but it lasts a second at the most, and I’m never actually paralyzed.
I find this very interesting… and worry about people that undergo hypnosis for surgery, as … what if a part of them feels it the whole time? Or what if they get a horrible surge when it’s over?
anyway…
onto #2
#2 involves getting to the borderline asleep/awake state… getting deep enough in it to feel like I cannot focus very well anymore… then I get up… take deep breathes, move around a little bit… try and get my mind rejuvinated but still a bit groggy…
then I lie back down, and I take very deep breathes in through the nose and out through the mouth… when I go out… I let everything go… I let unconscious thought chains build up, I let myself drift down… when I breathe in… I just… try and hold on… try and go back into focus… if I ever feel REALLY out of it, like I’m about to lose it… I breathe more forcefully… alter the tempo a bit… fragment my breathes… in in in IN IN… out out out… instead of 2 fluid motions.
The two times I’ve done this… my heart gets really screwed up… today I was worried I was going to have a heart attack… it is NOT my heart chakra, though I feel activity there… I took my pulse and it was in time with the pain I was feeling… it was kind of like heartburn… but the heart was beating so strongly and forcefully… almost painfully… it wasn’t so bad if i focused on another body part… but I was worried I wasn’t going to survive the session… though I didn’t really care too much at that point.
So anyway… I’ll eventually hold onto the “i’m drowsy and about to fall asleep” feeling for a long time… and I feel really weird… .it feels uncomfortable, yet good… i don’t like it at this point… but it’s interesting… sort of a weird buzz… but not really euphoric…
if I focus on descending while outbreathing long enough… I (today) reach what I assume to be a moderate alpha trance… as I could feel heaviness washing over my hands… and a FAKE paralysis, as in, something that is just psychological… but tingly and heavy nonetheless… it’s fairly deep, because on the outbreaths i really lose myself and sometimes get in images… but i never abruptly exit like I do with method one… so I think maybe I can “master” this and succeede at hitting mind awake/body asleep… and working on that and deeper states.
Anyway…
I’ve been trying to meditate for about 4-5 months… i’ve been lding for a year or two… and OBEing/APing since July… I’ve known about the breathing in through the nose and out through the mouth (and it has to be that way, i’ve found, just using one for all your breathing is what makes you sleepy) and imagining falling on the downbreath… i’ve tried it before… but i’ve never liked it or thought it had any legitimate uses…
but in conjunction with my sort of shortcut make yourself fall asleep bit… it seems to work rather well…
I’m optimistic about it… but… I’ve said “i’m so close to doing this” so many times now it isn’t even funny… maybe I’ll be right this time though… hopefully I’ll have to be some day…
Also… if I can meditate into a theta trance on a reuglar basis… I believe I can wil myself into at whenever at the drop of a hat by setting up a key word such as “theta trance…” in concjunction with a simple countdown… you know… like by implanting suggestions into myself while in those states.
I’ve done it with LDs before… but the key words have never worked for more than a few hours after that, and it was during the night.
But with repetetive drilling I think it could definitely work… absolutely.
And if any of you have read all this… I’ve spent a very long time in the borderline sleep state monitoring my chaotic hard to rememebr thoughts, and how they come about… so I think trying these two methods would be benefical to you all.
There are other variations of #1 too… like consciously rambling as fast as you can until your mind gets tired and gaps show up… and doing it with your eyes open if you feel really tired but can’t fall asleep… and other things… but that would make this post that much longer.
So… I yearn to be able to do what the topic starter (sorry i forgot your name) wants to do, minus the drugs and soundfiles… though… .if someone threw some drugs my way I wouldn’t object… innocent wink
and i know these ideas and techniques are by no means exclusive to me… milions of others probably have known them for ages… but i discovered #1 on my own without much help from others… and #2 well… it’s a basic meditation technique that is well known… i’m just sharing my experiences with it.