I had my first WILD last night, it was an immense rush and I had the most realistic LD I have ever had. Anyway I was wondering: has anyone ever experienced the sensation, whilst entering sleep consciously, of their jaw being clenched incredibly tightly closed. I experienced this last night along with a high-pitch whislting and tingling sensation, which I have heard is common. It may have been an illusion but the locked jaw was the only part of the WILD entry which I didn’t find enjoyable and exciting. Thanks.
1984
I have had a similar sensation only my jaw was not pushed shut but, I felt pressure on my face. It is just the SP setting in. It’s normal and nothing to worry about. It does not sound like it hindered you any. Which is good. When you practice WILD you may feel all kinds of weird sensations. Some may even be frightening. Just try to ignore them.
Congratulations on your first WILD.
It is an awesome experience. I am curious did you use the WBTB, napping or did you do it at your regular bed time.
Everytime I wake up in the morning to attempt a WILD, I plan on having one but end up falling asleep to quickly. 
Thanks milod789 for the reply. I’m not sure you’d class it as WBTB, but I just woke from a normal dream (without moving at all, and without opening my eyes or thinking any thoughts) and kept focusing on a mental image of the last dream image I had seen. As well as concentrating on this mental image I willed myself to be with the image, in a dream. Within a matter of probably five seconds I saw blue streaks and the whistling started up, shortly followed by the bodily sensations. I knew I was on my way to a WILD and I just focused on keeping calm and relaxed so as not to stop my entry.
I find it very hard (I have yet to succeed) practicing a proper WBTB WILD, or a WILD from the first time I attempt sleep, as I often find it hard to get to sleep, generally taking 30-45 minutes or upwards. What are your methods?
1984
I do WILD both at bed time and with WBTB.
When I do WBTB I just allow myself to wake naturaly and then go right back to sleep. The most I would do is use the bathroom. There is a lot of confusion about WBTB/WILD. A lot of people think you need to stay up for a ½ hour to an hour. That method is for WBTB/MILD.
With WBTB/WILD the less time you stay up the better in my opinion. I only stay up for like 2-5 minutes at the most.
Keep Practicing !!! You are doing great !!!
dnLMicky
Keep practicing. You will feel your way through with practice. Just don’t give up !!!
What method do you use to induce WILD?
Thought i would write this becuase I know everyones experiences are different, and when i was first starting wild, peoples experiences helped me understand more; i also differ with some things, like I do not get strong vibrations and vary rarely any HI, so could help those trying who dont either.
Try get you into the mindset
Concept 1:
Example. Someone is trying to pinch something off you (for example a friend is trying to nick a bag of sweets/pack of cigs/whatever) and you know they are about to do it, but you dont wanna give anything away. You can focus on two things at once; you can keep ACTIVE thoughts
on doing what you are doing, (whether it is watching TV or talking to someone). Also focus on them with your mind out of the corner of your eye, so you are aware of them, but not actually looking.
This is the type of mind set I try to get into while inducing WILD, I try to actively focus on one thing with my mind, whilst being aware of another without ‘thinking about it’
This is the easy bit…
Lay down(sometimes on back, others on side), close my eyes.
Now the hard bit…
This is where the concept I mentioned earlier comes into play. I actively think about ‘nothing’ basically whilst in the back of my mind keep the thought that i know im attempting to WILD in the back of my mind.
concept 2:
The mind works on association, so when you for example look at a coin you will say 5p silently in your head, or you read this text on the screen, you read words out in your head and constantly are associating words with everyday objects aloud in your head. But try think about something without associating it to a word or to anything else. just the fact that you know it and dont have to remind or repeat it to yourself. For example, try to read some text without silently reading in your head.
If you can manage to muster a thought in your head and keep it their in the back without actively reffering to it like the counting method of 1…2…3…i am dreaming. I believe it allows the mind a fall into a faster state of relaxation and progression through the next stages.
So getting back to it, in bed… eyes closed, 1 thought lingering in the back of my mind everying else black (taken a long time to learn to not let my mind wander or actively think things like what im doing tomorrow, or even if you have an itch try not to actively think about an itch, I wonder how long it gonna be there, oh no its getting worse, feeling a bit better now, its ok to know its there but dont think about it).
Eventually my body’s perception changes (quite quick about 15 min) it feels like im about 2 inches above my body and 2 inches below at the same time, both numbness and slight tingling (like faint pins and needles). Shortly after (est…10 mins) my minds point of view changes,
(its hard to explain) my mind begins to unbalance from being centered towards my body (solar plexus area) towards the front of my face and sometimes as though someone is pushing down on it. I dont often get HI like a lot of people do, but when I do I push past its aknowledgement
and keep only the 1 lingering thought in the back of my mind.
When in this stage of WILD I allow my mind feel the sensations without putting active thought to them. my body starts to feel as if it is being pulled into the bed and although i dont really see HI it is like the blackness that is… somehow travelling towards me.
(Sound wise I do hear people talking, but because I live in uni halls there are loads of people outside shouting and talking at all times anyway so I dunno whether it is me or them. I find sounds the hardest thing to ignore but because I have been living here for 7 months I have got used to it more than anything).
These feelings start to intensify, the blackness feels more empty and void and my body is being pulled faster. Eventually just by not actively thinking of anything and in the back of my mind just knowing what I am trying to attempt I can slip into a dream straight away.
Im not actually sure on the time between these last all happening because as I have been ranting on about the activly thinking, I surpress all active thoughts. Time flies though once you get into sleep paralysis… I love it.
There is actually a fine line that has wedged itself somewhere inbetween not actively thinking about something and just not thinking about anything… i have been practicing for a while trying to sharpen my technique up, there have been plenty of times when i have fallen asleep or kept too awake.
Many people say it is all down to patience, but also being able to tweak methods to suit you.
Problems I had whilst learning WILD
getting the hang of not activly thinking. its not easy laying there thinking about nothing. its even harder not thinking about ‘not thinking about nothing’… I could go on forever.
sometimes i would get bored whilst attempting this, causing me to either give up or carry on trying with 2 outcomes, to spend to next couple of hours trying and fall asleep or to find I cant sleep at all now. I still get bored once in a while and just give up now. I know its a big personal factor for me to be in the frameset to really want to do it.
From my conditions of living in a noisy student digs and having insomnia it can be seen that it does not affect the ability of being able to WILD, it will just make it harder to block out other thoughts
Im still a long way off perfecting my techniques, years down the road maybe, but i can never be bothered with dreamjournals and always forget to reality check. ive had more WILD’s now than normal LD’s. Thanks everyone before me that posted their experiences.
Double post… sorry
Hi,
I’m re-reading the previous WILD threads and I’ve got to one of Jeff’s posts where he says you won’t go easily in REM if you try WILD at night because REM is related to alpha brain waves which come later into the night.
So, here I wonder … In parapsychology there is a common thechnique to step directly into alpha brain waves from where you can do some “paranormal” things…
The questions is: if it is easy enough to get into alpha state, why not to step a little bit further ? 
Take care,
HS
That is actually not completely true. Most people who practice WILD do use the WBTB method because they find it easier and faster. However if you read all jeffs posts you will see that he does WILD at bedtime as does Dm7 as do I (though I am not as good at it as jeff and Dm7. yet 
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There are many skills that can bring you down into the Alpha range meditation and hypnosis are just 2 of them. In fact many believe that you can even go as far as theta.
You also are making an assumption that may not be accurate.
=> Do you have to be in REM sleep to dream ??? Many feel that you don’t. REM is just where most dreaming occurs.
=> Is it possible to change your REM cycle. Many people believe you can !!!
[color=indigo]Hey. I’ve just got back from a trip to the beach…and thought about trying WILD in the car on the way back listening to the radio. This could work right? I mean if you don’t have to be in any particular position, you could do it sat up right? It’s just the bumps from the road and the radio were keeping me slightly aware, but I was still ‘falling asleep’ and imagining things. (These stupid imagined dream things are SO damned hard to remember!) So is it possible, or easier?
Also when trying WILD, does anyone else get the sense of a quieter and louder sound? Like when you remember where you are and what you’re doing, it gets louder?[/color]
Thanks for the info realworld, some really useful tips. I sympathise with you, I live in a box in a student house, it’s not too bad but not being able to have silence when you want it can be very annoying, and living next to the bathroom can really mess up sleeping. I’m glad to say that I nearly WILDed last night, although I experienced the associated experiences before entering a dream whistling, tingling etc, I couldn’t keep focused and they cut out after a few seconds and I found myself awake (This occurred after waking from a dream BTW). However, it’s only been two days since my first WILD so I see this as progress.
How long did it take people to learn to WILD from bedtime as opposed to WBTB?
And have you tried ear plugs realworld? I am a poor sleeper but I find I can sleep with them. The only problem is fear of not hearing my alarm, however I find that you can hear well enough to detect such things normally.
cheers 1984, i’ve tried earplugs but don’t like them.
I try WILD most nights apart from when i go out and been into ld’ing for about a year but only WILD the last 3 month, i have 1-2 a week from them.
pstgirl
Rub it in. 
Spring just starting here after a bad winter.
I have never tried that but, I don’t see any reason why it would not work. I think it wold be a challenge though, unless you are really good at WILD.
[color=indigo]oh well. That rules me out lol.
Don’t worry. The beach was crap, cold, and its the same here as ar as winter goes!
It was warmer in Antarctica than the beach.[/color]
Don’t give up that easily !!! You never know. You might just pull it off. No harm in trying.
Too bad. Things will be warming up soon. I hope. 
I was wondering if anyone who can WILD from bedtime has spent a whole night WILDing, or a significant portion of it. Because if you can WILD from bedtime, can you just keep re-WILDing every time you wake up? Or is this hard/impossible or has no one ever had the will to try it, I could imagine it would be quite an effort. Thanks.
Could you explain the technique? I understand that alpha brain waves are being awake but relaxed, as in if you lie down for 5 minutes even if you aren’t sleepy, you’re in alpha?
See I’ve always been confused about this. The books describe it like I’M IN ALPHA RIGHT NOW since I’m being lazy and sitting down posting and not really active at all, I would consider this to be being relaxed…
But alpha is also associated with light sleep, and I am very familiar with light sleep, it’s what happens when your thoughts wander and turn into quiet voices and you are basically just observing them, or not even paying attention.
That is also a relaxed feeling, coming out doesn’t necessarily cause a jerk, it can be smooth, and you can still feel on the verge of consciousness, so is THAT alpha?
Or is taking 5 deep breaths and stretching out alpha? Both = relaxation as far as I know.
Now then… I guess theta would be once you get deep enough in wandering thoughts/images/sounds to actually JERK out of it? I can get to theta within 15 minutes then… alpha almost immediately, but coming out makes me feel normal, and it’s hard to get back in until I get groggy.
So… I don’t know. I know that HI can take you directly into dreams, and that I can access fairly strong HI within 15 minutes usually, so I would say you can definitely WILD whenever you want.
I just can’t do it… I’ve decided I need to give up on this approach and rather try a very ACTIVE imagination approach where I practice visualizations until I get good enough at them to make them fairly strong at will, and hope that say… i focus on something, see it… then really SEE it, then hold it… then I feel myself being drawn into it, then I can interact with it as if it were conscious HI, or even enter a dream.
For some reason the thing I tried to imagine was a green triangle… so I’m gonna stick with that, maybe i’ll associate green triangles with trances eventually. I’d say “green triangle” whenever I’d lose focus and try to see one, but of course I’d end up seeing cartoon characters and whatnot…
But yeah…
I’ve always thought WILD was just what you do after you wake up in the morning, not something people did during the middle of the day (which is what I want to do very bad)
I just firmly believe that if you can consciously WILD during the day, you can get really familiar with it so that you can trigger SP/trance/LD/AP/OBE/HI almost instantly.
Robert Bruce says he can enter a paralysis trance in 30 seconds.
I know I’m close, I just need to find out how to HOLD ON to a small thread of consciousness, or I need to build a strong imagination, and since it’s been 4-6 months of the holding on attempt, maybe I’ll work on the imagination instead.
It’s also just occured to me that maybe I should RC when i get a myoclonic jerk out of HI… hmm… that would be so ironic if I’m just dreaming about trying to meditate the whole time, but I somehow doubt it because then the HI within a dream should be strong and cooperative with me, and my imagining myself floating should make me float.
For me it varies. On nights I become lucid I often have several LD’s in a night and each night is different for me. But, yes it is possible to WILD all night or have any combinations of WILD, MILD, DILD. It is also possible to maintain consciousness through all stages of sleep. Not easy but, some people do it. I can’t yet but, working on it.
I have 3 questions about WILD.
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How long does it take most of you to become lucid from WILD or to atleast feel something significant such as the vibrations or SP. Last night I was doing WILD for about 50 mins and the only thing I got was the small tingling in my extremities that I always get and the lurch (read below)
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Has anyone ever felt a LARGE lurch of your stomach? I don’t really know how to explain it, but yesterday when I was doing WILD I felt my stomach lurch (probably like when you’re about to vomit and your stomach suddenly shoots in), the lurch made my body shoot up and it was pretty surprising.
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When you are doing WILD, will opening your eyes or moving any part of your body reset the whole process? Yesterday I was still for pretty much the whole 50 mins because I was afraid opening my eyes or moving my body would reset it.
Hello,
I also have a few questions for those of you whose are into WILD. For the most part I have stayed away from WILD in the past concentrating on WBTB, MILD, and DILD with marginal success. I’m looking to start trying WILD so I was wondering what technique people found the most effective? And what is the best advice you girls/guys have for a beginner?
ypm.