Sun-gazing

All very true. But I would suggest that most of those benefits are coming from the mind, rather than the sun. Lack of hunger and peace of mind are entirely possible without any special meditations or programs. It’s all a state of mind.

I started sungazing several years ago. It is apparently good for the eyes, as I developed really good nightvision. But I didn’t have peace of mind until I taught myself how to think properly, using various forms of meditation and dream analysis.

Lack of hunger is easy. It’s just knowing that hunger doesn’t really exist. What people call hunger is just a myriad of physical symptoms caused by their digestive system reacting to what they have eaten. It’s just that they’ve convinced themselves that these symptoms mean “eat more” when in reality the symptoms probably mean something else entirely. In fact, in most developed countries, people are eating too much. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that food is good or bad for you. That’s another topic entirely.

You ever been “hungry” while you were busy at work? And when you got home you weren’t hungry anymore? I rest my case.

I dare you to find a single scientific study proving that, because there isn’t one. It’s just something people starting telling their kids in the early to mid twentieth century with the advent of sunburn scare.

I used to sungaze all the time, and I never had trouble seeing mailboxes in the middle of the pitch black night while delivering newspapers. My friends told me that I was a fool and I would burn my eyes into coal, but I’m still waiting for this supposed charcoal eyes to happen.

Don’t believe everything your parents tell you, nor everything in your Physics101 class. The world is a lot more interesting and unlimited than people make it out to be.

NOTE: The author of this post does not advocate sungazing or extended fasting or other rituals which can be extemely dangerous if done improperly. Extreme caution is to be taken when undergoing new spiritual activities.

It is interesting the human mind.

Have you not seen it, that if a human believes in, without fail, that it can achieve something, the achievement is reached?

The power of the human mind can override even the powers of nature. I have no doubt sun-gazing would improve every aspect of your life if you believed it to.

Jesus even said, “If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, ‘Be uprooted and planted in the sea,’ and it will obey you…”

Anything you have faith enough to believe, will be true. At least this is my faith.

Galileo, one of the founders of modern astronomy, lost his vision near the end of his life from simply looking at the sun for a little while every day, to try to observe it more closely.

The fact is, there is no such study on this because there is no need to do one; there is enough UV radiation coming from the sun to seriously damage anyone’s vision - I hope I’m not coming off as rude, but like you said, stare at the sun at your own risk. But anyone who actually wants to go stare at the sun, even for a few seconds, should have a good idea of the risk they are putting themselves in by doing so. (It’s like smoking; it might seem relaxing…then again you might get cancer).

So, I really don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade, but as the guy who aced astronomy class, I would say it’s a good idea to find a safer way to awaken spiritually (studying astronomy is a good start, actually.)

Well, I really like it when I wake up in a cloudy day. One time, I had a brief conversation with a bus driver about how I liked the cloudy weather, and she asked what month I was born in. I said July, and she said it was rather unusual. I guess she was suggesting that people who are born in the summer usually like sunny days and those who are born in the winter like cloudy days.

Yes, I know this is kind of off-topic, but I want to point out that cloudy days doesn’t always make me feel sad.

geocities.com/osho1980/med2.html

The thing with the eyes is…

we always move them away from what we do not want to see… and we always look with hope for things we’d like to see.

So if they are simply, open…

…?

I think the ancient Greeks did something like this. They called it a psychomantium; sort of like an ancient version of a sensory deprivation chamber.

I tried it, about a year ago actually, and my vision is like near perfect, and i felt more spiritually sound and my vision seemed more vibrant and acute. I do this every once in a while. I never told anybody about this, i never thought of posting it either :wink:

Good Post!

Hi Eyelids,
can you keep us updated on your sungazing? I’m very curious about that and hope you can give us more info on your experiment.

thanx

I think I’m definately going to try this, it might help with my CFS…

I already had my eyes lasered (pew pew), and I suppose I could imagine that the sun might help since it is one of the bases for life.

I wouldn’t go too long without eating real food though, you may find a state of mind that’s good for you, but not necessarily good for your body. Besides, who WOULDN’T want to eat food when it tastes so good? :razz:

If I did this, I might only do it at sunset, because I like my late nights. But then again, we shall see, no pun intended although the temptation is quite large. ;D

mmm there are reasons to not eat food, even when it tastes good, as long as the body is healthy, or to severely limit diet to only raw foods and be vegan

Now, my results are NOW in the very first post here>…

FYI Gallielo did NOT go blind from looking at the sun, this is urban legend, one fellow may have, and it was because he used blue paper to see the sun, telling his eyes it didn’t hurt, when it actually did, for a very long time…
rawpaleodiet.org/sungazing/

my eyes are wacky eyes, and i’d love to have a spiritual master sit down and tell me why, because its really odd stuff, so they are taking a huge amount of work, but vision is getting stronger, and also, annoyingly, blocked by a large streak of color which takes several days to get out of the way

right now i can see this all, without straining, without crinkling them shut, and i don’t have glasses on, and its not in particular blurry, so that’s a huge step forward.

I wish I had followed and stuck with HRM’s model though because it would have given me strong enough faith that I may have lost hunger by the time I went to 45 minutes due to my mind expecting it.

though right now my only experiment i need to do is “look at least an hour a day and see if this hour a day takes hunger away”

it kind of did but then i ate a ton in the evening.

I believe his method is very good because it will take the few people that can truly transcend hunger and give them complete and total faith, whereas if they listened to skeptics they might quit a long the journey, even though m any do not conquer hunger by following his method, and he has been spotted gorging at Indian food buffets (lucky! I wish we had those here…)

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wow, well, don’t try it then!
unless you close your eyes and turn your closed eyes to the sun, that can feel nice if it isn’t too harsh

the way people start is right when its rising or setting, when its orange
and there is something else they start with before then, that i’m not familiar with

something really important is to sit a glass of water in a window with sun for 2-3 hours, then use an eyedropper to drop this water into the eyes, and drink the water, it most 100% surely has strong healing effects, which i can vouch for.

obviously you can’t do this if you have to pry your eyes open and they squeal in pain just to see the sun ! :smile: its intuitive, and I don’t want anyone just randomly deciding to do it, without doing the reading and research.

krupnov.blogspot.com/2007/08/7-t … in-hard.ht ml
mmm see:
“When I took my first sun treatment session, I was impatient and stupid enough to do it all wrong. In result, I suffered of afterimages (also known as scotoma, pl. scotomata) that lasted over two months. When that yellowish round spot in the center of my view field didn’t go the next day, and after two days, and after a week, you bet it scared the shit out of me. It took me a while to fully demonstrate to myself that scotomata were only illusions caused by strain. Like floaters, I was myself supporting that damned illusion by permanently worrying about it. And paradoxically, the best way to get rid of the afterimage was to look at the sun again :smile:. So looking back I realize that although I indeed haven’t caused myself any permanent harm, this temporary discomfort could have been avoided too if I weren’t such an idiot.”
this sounds a bit like me, though I was never scared for I read about it first.

It is not an urban legend, it is a well attested to fact in the history of science…and it should be common sense to us moderns: if you spend so much time looking for sunspots through a refractor telescope, you’re going to mess up your vision. If Galileo had known about Gamma rays and Ultraviolet rays like we do, and their effects on the body, do you really think he would have been staring at the sun like that? Would anyone be staring at the sun if they knew the sort of damage that radiation does?

You may not be doing this through a telescope, but you don’t have to to seriously damage you’re eyes - heck, you don’t even have to look at the sun nowadays, just go outside without sunscreen. 150 million kilometers away and the sun can still fry you.

Anyway don’t listen to me, listen to the guy who wrote that sungazing article eyelids gave a link to [Italics mine]:

listen to everyone!

iblindness.org/books/bates/ch17.html

did you READ THIS ?

what do you think, the man brought a woman from 20/70 to 20/10 just by having her look directly at the sun, bad for her eyes yeah?

get some very valid medical professionals to scientifically study people who use Bates method including sun, why don’t we ?

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I gazed the sun a couple of times but haven’t noticed any different in my vision - it neither got worse nor better. Any ideas?

i’ve been doing it since september, it has gotten a lot better, but its still very subtle

i measure my progress by this chart i have of guitar chords, they are so tiny you can’t see them if you have eyes like mine, but they get clearer and clearer, and sometimes i look and marvel at the progress.

www.iblindness.org

has an entire book about improving your vision, its JUST sun.
iblindness.org/books/bates/
and as all important literature should be, it is free.

Your path can be dangerous, but i am not the judge.
Here is a little info on Photokeratitis, welders flash, snow blindness. The eye is the fastest healing part of our body so the outward effects seem minimized. There is also a term called Presbyopia which states that after the age of twelve a slow natural degenerative state of the eye. This is why people in their late thirties to early forties experience near vision loss. Our bodies break down throughout the life cycle.

take a look at this
agingeye.net/visionbasics/uv … vision.php

Definition of Photokeratitis

Photokeratitis: A burn of the cornea (the clear front surface of the eye) by ultraviolet B rays (UVB). Also called radiation keratitis or snowblindness.

The condition typically occurs at high altitudes on highly reflective snow fields or, less often, with a solar eclipse. Artificial sources of UVB can also cause snowblindness. These sources include suntanning beds, a welder’s arc (flash burn, welder’s flash, or arc eye), carbon arcs, photographic flood lamps, lightning, electric sparks, and halogen desk lamps.

Symptoms include tearing, pain, redness, swollen eyelids, headache, a gritty feeling in the eyes, halos around lights, hazy vision, and temporary loss of vision. These symptoms may not appear until 6-12 hours after the UBV exposure.

Treatment consists mainly of keeping the eye closed with patches, after instilling a few drops of ophthalmic antibiotic solution, such as sulfacetamide sodium 10% with methylcellulose or gentamicin. Vision usually returns after 18 hours. The surface of the cornea usually regenerates in 24 to 48 hours.

Prevention involves sunglasses with adequate UVB protection and full coverage of the eyes (side shields).

Hmm… I’m gonna side with you, endless. There’s a lot of bad things ultraviolet light can do to your eyes.

Don’t get me wrong Eyelids, healing/improving your vision by simply looking at the sun would be great! But don’t you think it would be all over the news & not just on some less-than-trustworthy looking website? If you’ve gotten great results, then awesome! I just want to see some more substancial evidence before subjecting my eyes to a 1.392x10^9 m diameter ball of plasma.

I wear glasses too, & it would be wonderful if I could lose em. The air’s dirty here in Jersey, & I my glasses need cleaning all the time.

Perhaps I will try the “solarized glass of water” trick. That sounds relatively safe.