An easy WILD technique: visualizing colours
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#1: An easy WILD technique: visualizing colours Author: classicalhisux PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep, 2006
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I recently stumbled across one of the very first articles I've read about lucid dreaming. I had already been doing reality checks and using a dream journal, which I think helped me remember more and increased my chances of doing a RC in a dream.

However, when I tried this specific technique, you could have called my experience afterwards an OBE if I described it... while I was only aiming for lucid dreaming, I was in a reality that was, "more real" than this one we live in. That's the best way I can put it in words. I was then forever convinced that visualization exercises are very powerful, and this one definitely works.

I make this thread out to the people who have been trying for too long... everyone is not the same, but when I started doing this technique, I was about a week into learning how to LD, and 2 days of trying it, on the second day it happened.

I'm thinking of practicing this every night again, because it got me lucid in about a week's time when I was fresh to the subject.

Enjoy!

<mod> Link no longer valid, technique is explained at top of page 2 Rhewin</mod>

#2:  Author: Flanker PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep, 2006
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Hmmm... visualizing colors? This is the first time I've heard about this...
I think I'm gonna try it tonight ^^

#3:  Author: Soragu PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep, 2006
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I'll try it out.

I'll try anything, I need a LD badly.
After months, I still haven't got anything.

#4:  Author: Humble Dreamer PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep, 2006
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very interesting. Seems like a sound technique, perhaps I'll try it soon.

I'll give a post on whether or not I believe it works, but unlike a lot of techniques out there (not on this site or dream views) this sounds like it could work.

#5:  Author: Sonia PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep, 2006
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It seems like an interesting technique to me, and I'll give it a try, although I've already had plenty of luck with lucid dreaming in the first place. In fact, back when I was doing well with it, I had also managed to convince my SC that lucid dreaming was easy. yes I suppose it works differently from person to person, but I'll give this method a shot just to see if it produces any effects for me.

#6:  Author: Yang PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep, 2006
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Yeah, I'm gonna give it a try too. I wish it was THAT easy - visualising some colours! siiw

#7:  Author: Robin PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep, 2006
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I have a question, do you have to visualize the colors in your mind's eye - like just *thinking* of a rose, or really *seeing* the color red before you? You can see all colors in your closed eyelid too, I'm not sure what I should do.

#8:  Author: Yang PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep, 2006
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Yes, you have to see it.

#9:  Author: Humble Dreamer PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep, 2006
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my question, with WBTB or not?

I might try it tonight, seeing as how it's a weekend and all.

#10:  Author: Yang PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep, 2006
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I don't know, either.
I'm gonna try without WBTB.

#11:  Author: raybeam PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep, 2006
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Thai Boxer wrote:
very interesting. Seems like a sound technique, perhaps I'll try it soon.


Doesn't it sound more lika a "colour" technique then a sound?

Anyway, I'll try this technique, seems to be basic enough to actually work!
This exercise is included in a yoga nidra-CD I often listen to ("See a red rose, an orange, a yellow tulip, etc.").

#12:  Author: Robin PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep, 2006
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Yang wrote:
Yes, you have to see it.


That still doesn't really answer my questions. If I think of a rose, or something red else, I see it too, but it's a difference if I do that or use my closed eyelid to see it with my real eye.

#13:  Author: classicalhisux PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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I never physically "saw" anything. I would just imagine a red car for example, from an angle until I "felt" like "ok, I processed that one, visualized it, felt it". This technique is really like an exercise for your mind. Somehow visualizing colors and light triggers something.

You can be creative, like imagining.... a green naked fairy chick! or a big purple marijuana plant... or a yellow orange, an orange banana...

I never "saw it" with my eyes, but just imagining things and cycling through colors definitely can trigger an experience that can change one's life, at least it did for me. Took a few days to practice it though.

#14:  Author: MelissaDreamer PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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Yes ^^ this is a very effective technique ^^ I use this to go into Alpha state smile As I've said in another post my mother taught me this years ago, as she has learned it from her psychology class in college. It's definately worth the effort ^^

#15:  Author: no1uno PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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my dad has some internet blocker up and when i went there because it was categorized as "illegal" and "news", :-P. i guess there's a law against LD's.

#16:  Author: classicalhisux PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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Lol, totse is a very controversial website. Here I'll just paste it for you.

Visualization Excercises.

As you close your eyes, and make yourself confortable, I want you to visualize colors..

The Spectrum, in fact.

RED
ORANGE
YELLOW
GREEN
BLUE
VIOLET

This process is an excellent relaxation technique, and brings you closer
to your subconscious mind while in the waking state.

First Color = Red... Think of the color red.. Actually see this color in
your mind's eye. It can be a red spot... or a red porche, a red rose..
Anything red... You simply have to make sure that the color red has been seen
and experienced.

Second Color = Orange... Do the same as with the first.. See the color orange in your mind's eye.

Do this same process for all of the colors upon falling asleep..

You dont need to do this every night. Once a week is fine.. However..
You might find that its an extremely relaxing state that the excercise puts
you in.. So, you might wanna do it more often.

This excercise puts you in a relaxed, alpha state.. as well as stimulates
your inner eye for detail during dreaming.

Many times, you will find that you fall asleep before you even reach
Violet.. this is good.. because you will most likely find youself in a dream
of the last colored object that you were imagining.

Enjoy.

#17:  Author: Joshiii_Kun PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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Hmmm. I guess I'll try this one. Visualizing colors... seems interesting.

#18:  Author: Robin PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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I tried it yesterday, I always fell into that state of blackout while doing it, then I *woke up* and thought "shit, I have to visualize colors".

#19:  Author: Aksel PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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Hey, I'll try this tonight :D
Who knows, it might work ^^

#20:  Author: Yang PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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classicalhisux wrote:
I never physically "saw" anything. I would just imagine a red car for example, from an angle until I "felt" like "ok, I processed that one, visualized it, felt it". This technique is really like an exercise for your mind. Somehow visualizing colors and light triggers something.


Yes, that's what I did. Last night. It helped me to relax my body, eventually it fell asleep. But I wasn't in a very comfortable position and my ear hurt. I also heard weird sounds coming from a distance. I wasn't scared. Then I had this "click" and felt like my stomach had been pulled in from inside for a second or two. Now THAT was weird. I knew then that my body had fallen asleep. I waited for some more, but eventually got bored, cause nothing happened. I was supposed to be entering my dream. neutral

#21:  Author: Humble Dreamer PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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raybeam wrote:


Doesn't it sound more lika a "colour" technique then a sound?


ho ho, how funny we are

I think I'm going to try it tonight, so I'll post in the morning my findings.

#22:  Author: classicalhisux PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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Yeah, my common sense is telling me to stick with what I know works rather than try a bunch of new things.

Last night, like I said, Ive been practicing this every night again. So last night I had one! It was great! I walked outside of my door knowing "ok Im dreaming" and immediately flew without any doubts I could fly, which felt awesome. I went up into the sky in front of my house, then spun around, looked around, everything was real looking, and stable. I made a very important mental note to realize "Im aware and dreaming" and to remember it. This technique delivers!

From what I can remember, I cycled through the colors at least 3 times, getting carried away here and there but I kept trying for as long as I could, imagining basketballs, cars, trees, all kinds of stuff. I've never gone STRAIGHT into an LD from this technique, but I sure have had LDs from it. My first one ever came from this technique... Keep up with it! If it works, post back your results.

#23:  Author: Yang PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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Glad to hear it's working for ya classical! ^^ I'm gonna keep up with it too, the results I got last night were good imo, though I didn't get any lucid dreams. But I think I can try WILD with this. 8D

But I have a question for you, classicalhisux. Did you repeat it (3 times)until you fell asleep? Or did you just go through it three times and then thought about other stuff until you fell asleep?

#24:  Author: Soragu PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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I tried, but I forgot about the order and lost lucidity.

Bugger..

But since it gets many good reviews from you guys, I think I'll try again tonight.

#25:  Author: classicalhisux PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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I kept trying for as long as I could be aware, I remember making at least 3 full "cycles" then kept getting caught up in thoughts, but started over back at red a few times... I kept going for as long as I could...

#26:  Author: Yang PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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Ok. Thanks for telling. I did the cycle a few times, I think it was three times as well. Then I got bored with it. Tonight I'll do it over and over again.

#27:  Author: Humble Dreamer PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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I attempted it during a nap. I didn't have one, but it put me in a state of mind and body that usually takes me a really long time to get to through meditation. Needless to say, I'm excited about this outcome. I'll try it for a few nights and report again ^^

#28:  Author: MelissaDreamer PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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I can tell you guys what I do, it keeps me very aware and very relaxed...

First: I rid of all thoughts on my mind, and see the color black. After I only see this darkness, I imagine the number eight and its two circles. Imagine a line deviding each of them. One of these circles is the Objective world, and one is the Subjective world. Tell yourself you want to enter the subjective world.

Second: With the colors, I find my mind doesn't wander if I only imagine the full color, no material objects such as cars or trees. (It's just a suggestion, you can do whatever you please ^^)

Third: You see the color red, focus on this color for roughly 10 seconds, and tell yourself, You are becoming closer and closer to a more peaceful state of mind. (Or whatever words work best for you) Take a deep breath in, and out. Then picture orange, you continue this process until you reach the color blue. Once you see blue, you should feel yourself floating, as if floating out of your body. You are surrounded by the universe and its millions of stars. You look down at the earth, and see all of the continents, and how they fit together as a puzzle. Then you look at yourself, see how you fit together as a puzzle, every part of you matters. (Though I guess you could skip this part, I just enjoy it ) Proceed, and picture the color green, purple, then violate. Then you see all white. And thus, in your alpha state ^^...Or I would hope you are.

I can't gaurantee this will make WILDing all the easier ,but it does bring you into a very peaceful state of mind...at least for me it does.

Please tell me if this helps you out any, I would like to see if this works for anyone else.

#29:  Author: MatrixManNe0 PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep, 2006
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I tried this last night and it didn't work. Maybe because I visualized the colors too fast...?

I also didn't think to cycle through the colors. I went once through and was bored of it.

#30:  Author: Yang PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep, 2006
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Ne0, 1 cycle is probably not enough eh

#31:  Author: Aksel PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep, 2006
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I only fell asleep neutral
Maybe I should try it at daytime instead?

#32:  Author: MissEvil PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep, 2006
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I tried this (very briefly) and I really think it has potential. I noticed some HI came up whilst still on red. Then I just rolled over and went to sleep. kiekeboe It seems very promising though.

#33:  Author: Watt PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep, 2006
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While doing the technique is one supposed to focus on the third eye while visiualizing the colors? Or does 'mind's eye' simply mean to imagine it in your mind?

#34:  Author: Yang PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep, 2006
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No there's no need of focusing on the third eye. You just think of the red rose for example. When you think hard enough, you will see it. Not clearly, but in "mind's eye".

#35:  Author: gabbe PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep, 2006
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I donīt know, but I think this tecnique helped. But I had loots of vivid dreams, and got lucid for a few sec... And Iīve only had like 5 LD durig this year


And by the way, I dontīknow if Iīve got this right, but is this tecnique a WILD method???

#36:  Author: Brick PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep, 2006
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The Easy way to remember the cycle is ROY G BV, Roy G Bv, someones name, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet

EDIT: The most effective way is ROY G BIV Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo, Violet.

#37:  Author: Joshiii_Kun PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep, 2006
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I tried this technique last night. I didn't remember any dreams, but the technique was relaxing.
I think I probably visualized the colors too fast. I went through the spectrum several times. Actually I visualized coloured objects; A red tomato, orange underwear, a yellow lemon, green grass, blue sky and a violet flower. Somehow it was rather relaxing.

In one cycle though, I suddenly felt weird. At some color, I suddenly felt something like a light tingle throughout my whole body really fast and I felt lighter for a moment. I also felt as if a second me was inside a long shaped box, slightly above me, but still overlapping my actual body. I could feel the bed but I also felt this weird... feeling.
It's funny because I'm used to feeling heavy and paralyzed. This time I was feeling light and I wasn't paralyzed.

I'm going to try this again tonight. Let's see if I can get further.

#38:  Author: MelissaDreamer PostPosted: Tue 19 Sep, 2006
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Now I'm a bit confused, were those replies to classicalhisux?
Or me to my technique, I'm a slow one over here. And I really didn't mean to sound like a "Know it all" sadblauw

But I do wish everyone luck on what they're working on ^^

#39:  Author: Cheshire Cat PostPosted: Tue 19 Sep, 2006
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I tried it last night. Eventually, I had done it so many times that I pictured like a bunch of ballerinas in different colored dresses spinning around creating colors. It was awesome. But it didn't work for me...

#40:  Author: mgroat PostPosted: Tue 19 Sep, 2006
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no1uno wrote:
my dad has some internet blocker up and when i went there because it was categorized as "illegal" and "news", :-P. i guess there's a law against LD's.


TOTSE (the site that hosts this technique) is well-known for their articles on drugs, weapons, hacking, theft, erotica, scams, explosives, etc. Lots of stuff that could be classified as "illegal" (even though there's no law against reading that kind of stuff).

They also have more techniques on LDing, as well as other dream related stuff at:

http://www.totse.com/en/fringe/dreams_auras_astral_pr ojection/index.html

#41:  Author: 0Haku0 PostPosted: Tue 19 Sep, 2006
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I tried this last night also, I felt relaxed as soon as I saw Red! But Im having a difficult time breathing right before your body falls completely asleep. It becomes extremely hard to exhale so I keep inhaling to the point where I cant breathe, then I had to sit up and force all the air out, ruining my experience sadblauw

#42:  Author: Yang PostPosted: Wed 20 Sep, 2006
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Haku, it happens to me too. It's hard to breathe, sometimes even painful.

#43:  Author: MelissaDreamer PostPosted: Wed 20 Sep, 2006
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Haha, I was doing a few cycles of this before going to sleep, and my body jolted me awake. I couldn't help but wonder if I was only sleeping, for I kept seeing things move on my walls. So I walk outside and everythings fine, I do several reality checks. (all failed) and then tried to spin around and see if the setting changed. I ran into my wall when i did this and fell down. I came to the conclusion that I was awake lach1

#44:  Author: Watt PostPosted: Thu 21 Sep, 2006
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MelissaDreamer wrote:
Haha, I was doing a few cycles of this before going to sleep, and my body jolted me awake. I couldn't help but wonder if I was only sleeping, for I kept seeing things move on my walls. So I walk outside and everythings fine, I do several reality checks. (all failed) and then tried to spin around and see if the setting changed. I ran into my wall when i did this and fell down. I came to the conclusion that I was awake lach1


lach1

I've been there (last night, in fact)... except for the running into the wall part, but that seems like quite the reality check, maybe the best one. I'll try that RC shortly I think.

#45:  Author: The Big O PostPosted: Fri 13 Oct, 2006
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Wow, you got all of this stuff off of Totse? I'd watch out now if I were you, the FBI is probably tracking your computer.

Not really, but Totse does have a lot of... well... interesting stuff on it. Pretty much everything from making homemade bombs to hacking vending machines to growing ricin. Not the most responsible site, but I'm glad they have some dream related stuff.

I've tried this method a few times and it definetely helps me relax but I haven't been able to WILD with it. I'll keep trying though!

#46:  Author: CCHawk PostPosted: Sat 14 Oct, 2006
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Despite where it's from, anything's worth trying in my opinion. I'm excited to give it a go.

#47:  Author: jeremyincognito PostPosted: Sat 14 Oct, 2006
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Attempted this last night for quite a while. I was easily relaxed and fell asleep doing it. Unfortunately, last night was the first night in three days that I didn't remember a dream or fragment. I am going to try tonight again, will update if there is any change as to the outcome.

#48:  Author: MissEvil PostPosted: Sat 14 Oct, 2006
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I totally forgot about this. I'm going to give it another go again tonight. 8D

#49:  Author: jeremyincognito PostPosted: Sat 14 Oct, 2006
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I did it! This trick (in combination with the water trick) allowed me my first seconds of lucidity since I was a child! I am soooo happy! Thank you classicalhisux for posting this! *dances, cheers*

#50:  Author: MelissaDreamer PostPosted: Sat 14 Oct, 2006
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I actually just tried this technique this morning..how ironic. I'm starting to lose my skills on going into Alpha state sadblauw this is not good.

#51:  Author: Ithuriel PostPosted: Sun 15 Oct, 2006
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I'm desperate for a new technique...ill give this a go. Post results later.

#52:  Author: Mikk PostPosted: Mon 16 Oct, 2006
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I've tried this twice when going to sleep. Kept going through the colors until I fall asleep. Both times it gave me very vivid ND's, it really seems to have some effect. It puts me in a relaxed and comfortable state of mind as well. I'll keep doing it, hopefully I'll get some LD's from it too. Thanks for sharing this! ^^

#53:  Author: madhatter PostPosted: Tue 17 Oct, 2006
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I'm certainly going to be trying this tonight!

#54:  Author: krakatoa PostPosted: Tue 17 Oct, 2006
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I have tried this a few times now and I have had detailed dreams, seems like dreams more. At least I get to write more stuff in my DJ when I do it. But I haven't tried it that many times. I just have a good feeling about this technique. It also got me relaxed quite quickly.

#55:  Author: MelissaDreamer PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct, 2006
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This technique can also be pretty nice in meditation too ^^ You can concentrate on it and relax your body, and let go of all your stress. It's pretty cool smile

#56:  Author: rashid11 PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec, 2009
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the link doesnt work anymore sadblauw

#57:  Author: Namine PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec, 2009
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Rashid 11, you're right, the link doesn't work anymore. Although that may be, this technique seems promising. It's showed some success and has said to create very good normal dreams. I believe that if you use this right, you could modify it to help induce indeed a lucid dream. I'll be trying this tonight and post how it went tomorrow. Good job on this technique by the way!

#58:  Author: ArmanMoo PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec, 2009
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classicalhisux wrote:

Many times, you will find that you fall asleep before you even reach
Violet
.. this is good.. because you will most likely find youself in a dream
of the last colored object that you were imagining.

Enjoy.


I have two questions.

1) How long should I think about the colors? How long should I give for red, orange, indigo etc etc?
2) I have an extreme insomnia condition. It takes around 2-3 hours for me to fall asleep. Will I be able to fall asleep fast with this technique?

#59:  Author: tosxyChor PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec, 2009
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rashid,
the content was posted into this topic. Mainly because of the controversial content of the rest of the site .

ArmanMoo,
I go with 10secs, and that's what other people in this topic said too, but you can go longer if wanted or needed.
And b) yes it will definitely help. Just remember to relax, focus on your intention of visualizing colors (which means no distractions, just think about the exercise) and keep cycling if needed. I got asleep in a single cycle more than once ^^ and I was a poor sleeper too.

#60:  Author: ArmanMoo PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec, 2009
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Socks-ychor wrote:
and I was a poor sleeper too.


Hmm.. but it seems really surreal that I'll fall asleep in a short time when I have such an extreme insomnia problem. (I'm 16, and I've tested 2 different sleeping pills at two different times. They didn't work on me..)

1) How long do you think it will take for me to "fall asleep"?

2) Doesn't this mean that this technique the ultimate cure for insomnia?

#61:  Author: tosxyChor PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec, 2009
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2) Well, I experimented many techs other than this one, this is just one of the many ways of getting asleep faster. With time I got the general meaning, and I set myself up for sleeping faster.

1) If you relax your body first, it will take little, however i can't know how much it will take for you, nor you should know it, because waiting for the moment you will get asleep will only keep you awake just go with the flow of visualizing, keep your attention there, and relax in general, you'll be asleep before you know it wink5

#62:  Author: ArmanMoo PostPosted: Thu 24 Dec, 2009
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Socks-ychor wrote:
2) Well, I experimented many techs other than this one, this is just one of the many ways of getting asleep faster. With time I got the general meaning, and I set myself up for sleeping faster.

1) If you relax your body first, it will take little, however i can't know how much it will take for you, nor you should know it, because waiting for the moment you will get asleep will only keep you awake just go with the flow of visualizing, keep your attention there, and relax in general, you'll be asleep before you know it wink5



Well I did this yesterday night. Didn't work at all.

First I thought of objects in different colours (ROYGBIV). Didn't work, so I went on to think about paint falling like a waterfall in the different colours. I wasn't excited, I was relaxed and calm.

This technique didn't work in the night, neither in the morning when I woke up without even moving.

This stuff just doesn't work for me. I'm so angry! grrr

#63:  Author: idanl09 PostPosted: Fri 25 Dec, 2009
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It's really good, I was very relaxed but then I had to swallow my savila....

#64:  Author: tosxyChor PostPosted: Fri 25 Dec, 2009
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What do you find yourself thinking about during those attempts? Thoughts about the future or past can keep you awake for long time.

At this point, I would suggest meditation. It's a freaking cure-all, believe me. Just sit for some minutes, being quiet, observing, listening. Let thoughts flow, be aware of them, and focus on the sensory experience only. I hope it goes well for you colgate

#65:  Author: LucidLuke PostPosted: Fri 25 Dec, 2009
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Well this technique seems to give me a nice boost.

I suggest you imagine a surface of liquid coloured in red (the first colour in the spectrum) and with each breath you take- imagine something small fell into the liquid. The ripples then go as they go naturally and the colour gently paints into the next colour of the spectrum. This seems to relax me quickly enough. However, I have one question for the more experienced LD ers out there:

When i do as i mentioned above it goes easy at first. it goes "red...orange...yellow...green...blue...violet...red. ..ora..nge..ye..llow. ..gr..ee..n....." Undersdtand? I start to slip and other thoughts start racing through my head. Usually quite random thoughts.

SO, with the given situation I can only see three possible choices:

1. Allow my thoughts to divert from the technique when it does so naturally and just drift along the random thoughts (wouldnt that make me fall asleep un-lucid?)

2. Keep focus on the colours no matter what until i find myself in the lucid dream (wouldn't that be pushing it?)

3. Neither focus on the technique, neither allow my mind to wander absolutely, but rather begin to focus on my awareness and the sensory experience when I feel that the technique has relaxed my mind and body enough?

What do you guys think? ^^

#66:  Author: rashid11 PostPosted: Mon 28 Dec, 2009
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thanks socks-ychor smile

#67:  Author: raybeam PostPosted: Fri 11 May, 2012
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Link is down, was interested in reading this!

#68:  Author: raybeam PostPosted: Fri 11 May, 2012
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found the text it is in the thread.. Having a really long period, lost count, but it might be years without LD's.. Gonna try this now..

#69:  Author: Merengil PostPosted: Wed 26 Jun, 2013
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Could anyone update the link pretty please? People may want to try it, and it's not working... sadblauw
Thanks ! smile

#70:  Author: Rhewin PostPosted: Thu 27 Jun, 2013
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Unfortunately it looks like the site that was originally hosting it went down. I'm not sure there is an easy way to find it again. I used the Way Back Machine internet archive, but the last copy of the page is from 2007 and does not seem to have that link. Moreover, the page that is there has some... interesting content. It might be best to move on tounge2

#71:  Author: lucky1990 PostPosted: Fri 28 Jun, 2013
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Do i have to focus on my third eye while visualising colours. And can i visualise just a circle of colours like red, orange etc?

Can i change my sleeping positions while visualising and can i open my eyes for a brief period while visualising?

#72:  Author: Merengil PostPosted: Fri 28 Jun, 2013
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Rhewin wrote:
Unfortunately it looks like the site that was originally hosting it went down. I'm not sure there is an easy way to find it again. I used the Way Back Machine internet archive, but the last copy of the page is from 2007 and does not seem to have that link. Moreover, the page that is there has some... interesting content. It might be best to move on tounge2

Oh, sorry, I was wrong... Actually, the whole method is on page 2 of answers tounge2 Perhaps someone could link to this part of the thread instead ?

lucky1990 wrote:
Can i change my sleeping positions while visualising and can i open my eyes for a brief period while visualising?

I'm not an expert, but in these techniques, your focus will break very easily if you move, and you'll go through sleep paralysis hell if you open your eyes, so I really advise you not to do any of these.


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#73:  Author: Merengil PostPosted: Sat 29 Jun, 2013
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Btw, I tried this technique last night for the first time... and I got a LD ! :D (a short one, but still) I think it's very efficient, considering that I have tried the standard WILD one for countless times and it keeps failing...
It really allows you to stay awake and not fall asleep, while entering progressively dreams (whereas it's way harder to do that through WILD). Highly recommended ! :D

#74:  Author: Eterna PostPosted: Sun 30 Jun, 2013
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Cheers for the link Merengil smile
There seems to be two identical posts but one has instructions and the other doesn't...or maybe I'm seeing things!

#75:  Author: Koharo PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul, 2013
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Eterna wrote:
Cheers for the link Merengil smile
There seems to be two identical posts but one has instructions and the other doesn't...or maybe I'm seeing things!

Good time to do an RC. reality check

#76:  Author: tony-nacho PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul, 2013
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I keep trying to follow the link from the original post but it says the page doesn't exist. Can someone plz summarize what it says or something? shy2

#77:  Author: Merengil PostPosted: Fri 12 Jul, 2013
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tony-nacho wrote:
I keep trying to follow the link from the original post but it says the page doesn't exist. Can someone plz summarize what it says or something? shy2

.......... just read our last posts neutral
But yeah, a mod should change the link to there really <mod>fixed Rhewin</mod>.
also, I think it should be combined with WBTB, it's much more efficient with it as it's easier to stay awake.

#78:  Author: Gurdjieff PostPosted: Mon 03 Jun, 2019
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Interesting, I'll try it! Thanks



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